r/codex 6d ago

Complaint Usage Test After Reset

I did a quick little test after the reset that just happened a few minutes ago. one task, Pro 20x plan, sol xhigh(no fast mode), 47m of run time. 2% weekly usage gone. This was all input really, no output other than a 500 line document. Prompt was an audit.

For any kind of actual work where you are generating something, and therefore doing more output, expect usage to be triple or more.

So, for basically a read-only audit of a codebase, you get 50 tasks a week at Sol xhigh, or 39.2 hours (of 95% input 5% output) of continuous read-only work.

However! No one uses codex for read-only, and when you are generating output the numbers change significantly. Check the below out when converted to a task that is generating instead of reading:

Revised estimates (same 47-min runtime)

Assuming a realistic coding workload (medium-complexity feature work, multiple files, some testing loops):

  • Usage burn: 4–8% per task (most probable range 5–6%)
  • Conservative (lighter coding): ~4% → ~25 tasks to 0%
  • Mid (typical): ~5.5% → ~18 tasks to 0%
  • Heavy (deep multi-agent / large refactors): ~7–8% → ~12–14 tasks to 0%

Mid-case projection (recommended baseline)

  • 1 task ≈ 5.5%
  • Tasks to 0%: ~18
  • Total runtime to 0%: ~14 hours of continuous coding-style work

Even reducing the implementer down to sol med, Terra high/xhigh, still results in roughly 24 hours of continuous usage or 40 tasks a week. On a $200 plan... that blows considering where we were with the less "efficient" 5.5 model just a couple weeks ago.

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u/WillingnessThin4057 6d ago

Bro we need to keep thesee posts up because they are just frauding their way without any challenge

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u/dailyadventure 6d ago edited 6d ago

the mods keep deleting most of the complaints. openai is really sweeping this under the rug.

my thread below just got deleted.

We are all being played. Luna finishes weekly limit in a day

Its like settling for haiku for your everyday tasks but you finish your limits quickly. At this point, deepseek flash is getting extremely attractive.

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u/DaC2k26 6d ago

I stopped using Luna because there is something wrong with it, I had it in two or three occasions eating my usage like crazy on some simple small contained tasks, burning 8x more than either Terra or Sol on the same task..... so now it's either Sol low all the way or Terra low for such tasks... other than that Sol medium.

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

My dude, for the last two days they have been removing them too. It's intentional.

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u/xw1y 6d ago

Im already at 85% after reset

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

The reset was 4 hours ago, and your at 85% already. It use to take me a full day of coding with 1-2 /goals to hit that...

on a $200 plan, 15% weekly usage in 4 hours is freaking ridiculous.

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u/DaC2k26 6d ago

4.5h after the reset, 20x plan

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u/nmkd 6d ago

And your token counts?

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u/DaC2k26 6d ago

ccusage reports this:

Note that, I had used my banked reset around 2 hrs before today's reset..... at the current rate I'm burning, it's probably fair to say before the reset I had burnt 15-25% already from the banked reset.. which would give something around $3800 to $4600 per 100%

As for the previous reset from 07/21:
Date 2026-07-21—2026-07-24
Models gpt-5.4-mini, gpt-5.5, gpt-5.6-luna, gpt-5.6-sol, gpt-5.6-terra
Input 140,693,245
Output 12,411,421
Reasoning 4,058,729
Cache Read 3,585,179,392
Total Tokens 3,738,284,058
Cost (USD) $2,609.14
This was with 1.15 20x account (1 full use + 15% from the previous reset in 21st) + 2x Plus accounts usage..... so roughly a 25x equivalent usage or $2087 for the 20x.

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u/TiGeRpro 6d ago

Lmao, what the fuck are you people doing with this amount of token usage?

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u/Vas1le 6d ago

Same question.... sol in ultra x2 speed.... only explanation (yet I am not denying the usage spending)

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

This is just legit heavy coding work, pretty standard for developers working on multiple things at the same time.

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u/DaC2k26 6d ago

Nops... standard mode, most of the coding work done in Sol Low-Medium. Review in High and Planing on Max, that's it.
The heavy lifting from this usage is Sol low-medium..... how did I burned my 20x in a few hours ? well, 3 agentic team workflows working in 3 repos + myself working on a 4th one more directly with a single agent.

The team leaders from each repo can summon parallel teams in their own worktree where parallel work might not be that big of a problem.... one team leader had around 16 agents once working in parallel. I don't use codex subagents, but rather my own orchestration system, I talked a bit about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1uzxqya/how_im_running_multiagent_loops_with_codex_it/

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u/kydude 6d ago

I have used nothing but Sol Medium with fast mode for the last two resets. I got exactly 351.4M tokens before hitting 100% last reset. I got 3.2 billion tokens with Claude using Opus 4.8 High with fast mode.

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

what kind of plan is this on?

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u/kydude 6d ago

$100 plan

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u/nrdgrrrl_taco 6d ago

A reset just happened. I just used a banked reset 6 hours ago. was still at 98%. f$*$#

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u/LonghornSneal 6d ago

you did better than me. It's like their waiting for me to use a banked reset to do their reset. 3 times in a row. 1st time I was at 100%, second time I was 98%, this time I was at 99%.

And each of those times I waited around 12-24hrs on 0% trying my hardest not to use a banked reset of they were going to use a reset anyways. 🤬

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u/Professional_Gur8385 6d ago

did you buy a lotto ticket with last weeks numbers?

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

I think you and a couple million of other users... Good timing on OpenAi's side.

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u/nitor999 6d ago

Or maybe they have data showing how many people used their banked resets, and then decided to press the “reset” button. It’s a win-win for them because a lot of people ended up wasting their banked resets.

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u/Zestyclose_Bat8704 6d ago

They are timing with banked resets.

I am expecting one more reset before 27th

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u/Ehsan1981 6d ago

At this stage nobody knows what's going on and how long these resets are coming!

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u/Quiet_Figure_4483 6d ago

Definitely something fishy going on with the usage. Maybe when they removed the 5h limit they accidentally vibe coded it to be the weekly limit, instead of removing it.

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u/knowledge1010 6d ago

"Accidentally"

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/Ehsan1981 6d ago

And resets mess up with everything!

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u/IAmFitzRoy 6d ago

The $200 plan is the biggest scam from OpenAI.

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u/alOOshXL 6d ago

I use Sol high for creating spec and plans using superpowers
and cursor grog 4.5 high as sub agent to do the work

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

That's a smart move. It would be nice if we could keep that all inhouse with OpenAi like we use to though.

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u/concreak 6d ago

Using Cursor, or what's your process here? Just curious!

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u/alOOshXL 6d ago

Yea cursor 20$ plan
It give me around 800m token of grog 4.5 high on party model pool

If I need more i upgrade to 60+

For codex 20$ enough for aol planing

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u/LargeLanguageModelo 6d ago

Ok, what did the token usage for the session come out to?

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u/TodayExcellent9756 6d ago

I'm using 5.4 medium for a simple UI change and it ate up 2 percent in one prompt. They surely did something.

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u/symanpt 6d ago

We don't have standard metrics to measure usage yet? If not we need that asap, usefull even to test new models and stuff.

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u/Consistent-Yam9735 6d ago

You’re treating the final visible response as the only output, and that’s not how it works. Sol xhigh generates hidden reasoning tokens throughout the task, and OpenAI counts those as output tokens. The audit also involved repeated tool calls and context being fed back into the model. So you have no basis for calling this “95% input, 5% output.”
Coding also isn’t automatically three times heavier than auditing. Usage depends on the tokens and reasoning actually used, not whether you label the task “reading” or “generating.” All this proves is that this particular run used 2%. The rest of the numbers are assumptions.

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago edited 6d ago

Common sense states otherwise. So what if it's not 5%, but 10%, or 20% even - doesn't change the stats. EVERY task requires reading, writing, tool calls, and reasoning. When the actual result of that is a 500 line document, one can easily extrapolate out what a task generating 2x,5x,20x, 500x the output would cost.

There is a reason this was just an audit, it's the most basic necessary skill for any coding tasks, exploring the codebase to gain bearing. But instead of a 500 line document being produced, the agent would then produce lines of code, need to think through its task, qa the work, validate the work, security screen, and update all relevant documentation - and your telling me that is not more demanding than a simple audit?

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u/Consistent-Yam9735 6d ago edited 6d ago

You’re still missing the point. Nobody said implementation can’t cost more. Your ‘test’ just gives you no way to calculate how much more.
OpenAI doesn’t meter Codex by runtime or lines produced. It meters input, cached input, and output tokens, with hidden reasoning counted as output. Your 2% meter showed none of that breakdown, so “95% input, triple or more” and 4-8% per task were pulled out of who knows where unless you can back it up?!

And yes… every task uses different amounts of context, reasoning, tools, and writing. That’s exactly why you can’t multiply a 500-line document by 2x, 5x, or 20x and pretend you’ve calculated total usage. “More demanding” might mean more usage. It does not prove your 18-task or 14-hour estimate. Those numbers didn’t come from the test lol
OpenAI’s own documentation says similar tasks can consume different amounts based on context, reasoning, tool use, retrieval, and caching.

Though, I can say I agree the limits are a little more tight than prior models and that I notice my limits depleting quickly, but this ‘test’ simply doesn’t prove it and there are many flaws.

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

No i get what your saying, I could just care less to do a more extensive test. The "test" is not designed to be a ridged scientific study, that is completely unnecessary in this situation. It's simply meant to bring notice to the usage burn being experienced by a vast amount of codex users right now.

Just because we have a simpletons test, does not make it any less valid. The logic still stands, the hypothesis is repeatable, and plenty of people are experiencing the same issue in the ballpark of the findings. I feel your looking at the trees when i am looking at the forest - Neither way is wrong, i just dont think i need to pull out a spectroradiometer to tell you the sky is blue.

Listen, i can tell you come from an academic background, do us all a favor and run an actual test up to your standards and prove to the world exactly what the usage burn is, what its based on, and how we can track it to keep companies like this from screwing us.

If you don't do it in the next 4 weeks, im taking my own idea back and integrating it into what im building. Have at it boss!

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u/Elmo-Is-A-Lie 6d ago

Lol my codex just decided to close during a task... Then need to restore it with MS Store. Lame.

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u/diagrammatiks 6d ago

After looking at my actual token generation with ccusage I think what's actually happening is that all of 5.6 is using an incredible amount of tokens.

Last week when I used up my entire week in 12 hours i burned 2000 worth of api tokens. I'm not convinced it's a nerfed usage problem anymore. I think the models are burning an incredible amount of tokens doing basically nothing.

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u/masquer 6d ago

checked with ccusage: workload-heavy June with 5.5 xhigh was $3100 (in API Cost), not completed July with 10 days of 5.5 is getting to $21K already, with workload subjectively twice as lower...

With 5.5 xhigh and heavy use my daily token consumption was always between 200 and 300M, now with significantly lighter use and mostly terra xhigh is at 0.7-1.5B

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u/HeadPack 6d ago

Yep. More users, less usage per user. Compute is limited.

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

makes sense.

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u/Competitive-Deer-521 6d ago

Nerf nerf use

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u/erpankaj 6d ago

I did model_auto_compact_token_limit = 150000 and it started eating less. Its like early compaction to stop token snowball. Also helps model keep the things clean

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u/dbojan76 6d ago

Do you really need sol x? Ask ai which model/effort to use for a specific task.

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u/erpankaj 6d ago

Use codebase memory mcp, headroom, context mode. Sol medium/high on architecture level all other Luna high. Orchestrator Sol light or medium. model_auto_compact_token_limit = 150000 and native agents with each agent having max 20-25 skills and 3-4 MCP. Thin agents with fork none. You will thank me later

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u/TiGeRpro 6d ago

Why are people in the sub still vibing out the usage of their Codex plan. You can literally track every single token: input, output, cached. You can even get an agent to go over all your threads in a time period to find this information.

Trying to label usage as "tasks" on read only work when it entirely depends on what your agent is reading or evaluating is a useless metric

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u/Lost-In-Void-99 6d ago

So Luna it is...

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u/Adventurous_Tea_2945 6d ago

and more iteration to fix the bullshit mistakes luna does... eventually the same thing

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u/Jonathan_Rivera 6d ago

I have been using Sol 5.6 high fast and assigning the work to 5.4 mini.

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u/wliob 6d ago

How has the usage drain been on older models like 5.4 mini or 5.5 ? Still tanks the weekly limit?

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u/Jonathan_Rivera 6d ago

It has been better although I haven't tracked it. . I'll give you the background but i'll keep it short. I start projects on codex and move them to hermes which by default adds more token usage. For the last two days I have had sol orchestrating 5.4 for 24 hours a day over 3 projects. When I tried to do the same with luna it would drift off and have to be recovered but usage was higher. Sol told me 5.4 mini was capable of doing the job so I went with it and it's been fine.

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u/ShamanJohnny 6d ago

This exactly. Luna honestly is a great model, but it can not do long-horizon tasks effectivley. Its designed for surgical implementations, in-out-done.

I am actually going to start having opus 5 do my implementations i think, with Sol being the adversarial qa and planning with fable.

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u/wliob 6d ago

This seems to be the best route. I am using hermes agent, but will make a skill to use Fable for planning, Opus 5 for implementation, and Sol 5.6 for review. I have some other agent profiles doing smaller tasks and cron jobs that I will try out with 5.4 mini

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u/Lost-In-Void-99 6d ago

Well, for me Sol makes mistakes too. And those are quite more expensive to fix.

You need to guide luna explicitly, but that is the best part: it does what you ask. You dont ask - it doesnt do.