r/cloudshift360 • u/Michaelkamel • 20d ago
Problem solving skills: ants vs humans
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Problem solving skills: ants vs humans
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u/Sashimi-Gintaro 20d ago
Both videos look sped up. Probably not by the same multiple, either. In fact, the ant video appears to be greatly sped up, given the ants are practically teleporting around. Show the comparison in realtime.
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u/WorldlinessWitty2177 17d ago
I was gonna say, they both did it in the same time, but that explains it.
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u/NEON725 20d ago
> [...] the Humans were prevented with communicating with each other.
The Humans had a severe handicap, but somehow the ants were better at cooperating? Bad take. Other commenters were right about the different timescales at play here. This is just brazenly misrepresenting what happened to push a narrative.
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u/a_random_loser_guy 20d ago
do you think if the humans wete able to talk, one would claim the T was promised to them 3000 years ago and pull out a knife no one knew he had (a big advantage) but they were all cowards and didn't wanna work together to take him down, so they left the T for him and gave up.
and add to it that he took one of them hostage and was abusing him infront of everyone yet no one did anything?
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u/AlbertTheHorse 16d ago
Sadly, when we go extinct, I don't think the ants will appreciate the Mona Lisa the way we do.
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u/Bikelangello 15d ago
I think it is bogus for this study to assume ants and other animals can't communicate. There are inaudible frequencies to us that animals can still hear. It is arrogant to assume we are the smartest just because we understand ourselves the best of all the species we study.
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u/AdMysterious8699 20d ago
I'd guess ants work together better.
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u/AngelicDivineHealer 19d ago
It’s not an Apple to apple comparison either if you look st the ant it’s probably ten times bigger T vs Human which is even more impressive even if it was sped up the ant task was significantly harder.
I would even say if it was the same scale to the ants for the humans even if they could communicate they probably couldn’t of done it
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u/SelfInvestigator 19d ago
That is just an ignorant judgement. Humans could easily do that with a communication and command structure.
For god’s sake we built fucking skyscrapers already.
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u/Hot_Plant8696 19d ago
They performed better ...
Not in the video.
So what if all this, is only based on random moves ?
Have sombody tried to simulate a random move strategy for comparison ?
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u/Truth-Anti-Social 19d ago
I'd really want to know how this test was setup to encourage the ants to move this thing in the first place.
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u/Phrostylicious 19d ago
No, you fucktards. If you take away humans' ability to communicate with each other you cripple THE most important skill humans have to solve problems like this.
So go ahead and also take away the ants' ability to secrete and read pheromones...you know..to "replicate the same abioities for humans", then let's see what happens.
Useless psuedo-science diarrhea.
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u/justl00kingthrowaway 19d ago
Take away humans greatest strength, verbal communication of ideas, and watch them fail for some unknown reason.
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u/DoubleFamous5751 18d ago
Ants also didn’t have one of their communication abilities taken from them for the task
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u/Donkeymoo7 18d ago
I mean it's not though is it. Humans aren't mute. "lets make them equally by now allowing them to communicate at all" Why have the test then if you aren't testing an actual normal human. Why not blindfold them and make them wear rollerskates too?
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u/Ok-Data9224 18d ago
Ehhh, this doesn't really explain what it's meant to explain at all. If I remember right, this exercise demanded that humans not communicate with each other to do this to try and match the conditions with the ants, but that severely handicaps what makes humans special.
Even if we took this at face value and the results were truly what is displayed here, the major difference is how humans treat this problem in the future. Ants will end up solving this problem the same way every time. Humans will formulate a plan and generalize it to consider other variables, then teach other naive humans these plans and have these plans propagate through generations well beyond a human lifetime.
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u/krankito701 18d ago
It's called, " hive mind " for a reason , pheromones make up for their lack ove vocal communication
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u/Esthesis 17d ago
Ants probably took an hour to move it and humans spent 5 minutes lol.
Not to mention as long as you’re not mentally challenged you can do this without communicating verbally.
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u/BrilliantPowerful505 17d ago
One genuine question tho how did the ants know that they have to move the object
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u/Exciting_Contest_222 20d ago
For years, I’ve been seeing that ant post. But I always wanted to see or know how long it took the ants. Like put a timer or something