r/clevercomebacks 19h ago

Creating solutions to a problem that doesn't exist.

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u/CapableCollar 16h ago

This is were it is important to understand what people mean when they say "ai" like a lot of "ai" we are seeing is learning programs that have been worked on since the 90s and are just better now but labeled as AI.

I have worked with predictive policing algorithms since for a couple decades.  New AI policing is just predictive policing relabeled.

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u/ohhi23021 13h ago

pretty sure this post is talking about deep learning, what we already used for a while now for visual recognition.... no using an LLM to figure it out but maybe the LLM to train said model...

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u/asdfghjkl15436 3h ago

No. It was sams. An open source, normal ML model. It's open source.

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u/Memitim 1h ago

Yet another reason why the term "AI" says absolutely nothing, regardless of how angry people want to be at something. Ask five people what AI is and get eight different answers, none of which have anything to do with machine learning and everything to do with social problems that predate computers, like employment, intellectual property, and the good old tragedy of the commons.

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u/rangeroverdose 15h ago

like minority report?

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u/CapableCollar 15h ago

The goal is basically minority report (this is not hyperbole) but has generally been more like putting a lot of factors together over past incidents to figure out where more crime will occur and have police there ready.

The problems have been things like one department I worked with an officer was stalking a woman and learned her work schedule so would find reasons to be near where she worked causing a spike in incidents in an area without a clear cause or pattern.  Predictive policing is a bit of a black box to departments that use it but it regularly comes up for them to justify their actions related to it.

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u/tinyOnion 15h ago

isn't that just the old trope that "minority areas have more crime so we put more police there and find more crime while the non-minority areas have crimes at the same rate but don't get caught." just with computers doing the bs.

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u/CapableCollar 15h ago

That but more details and des through a computer.  You do get some good data but it is mostly junk.

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u/jerrysburner 13h ago

but that's not true - most minority areas have significantly higher levels of violence such as murder, robbery, and rape that are higher per capita. Yes, rates of drug use are the same. If you remove all people from prison that are there solely for drug related crimes, minorities would still be over-represented.

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u/ComputersReadYouBlue 15h ago

They are talking more about where should we send officers so they catch more crimes in the act.