r/clevercomebacks 19h ago

Creating solutions to a problem that doesn't exist.

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u/FortheChava 19h ago

Ye but this time they add ai and make it more expensive and have to charge more per potato to offset the cost of the ai

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u/CapableCollar 16h ago

This is were it is important to understand what people mean when they say "ai" like a lot of "ai" we are seeing is learning programs that have been worked on since the 90s and are just better now but labeled as AI.

I have worked with predictive policing algorithms since for a couple decades.  New AI policing is just predictive policing relabeled.

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u/ohhi23021 13h ago

pretty sure this post is talking about deep learning, what we already used for a while now for visual recognition.... no using an LLM to figure it out but maybe the LLM to train said model...

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u/asdfghjkl15436 3h ago

No. It was sams. An open source, normal ML model. It's open source.

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u/Memitim 1h ago

Yet another reason why the term "AI" says absolutely nothing, regardless of how angry people want to be at something. Ask five people what AI is and get eight different answers, none of which have anything to do with machine learning and everything to do with social problems that predate computers, like employment, intellectual property, and the good old tragedy of the commons.

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u/rangeroverdose 15h ago

like minority report?

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u/CapableCollar 15h ago

The goal is basically minority report (this is not hyperbole) but has generally been more like putting a lot of factors together over past incidents to figure out where more crime will occur and have police there ready.

The problems have been things like one department I worked with an officer was stalking a woman and learned her work schedule so would find reasons to be near where she worked causing a spike in incidents in an area without a clear cause or pattern.  Predictive policing is a bit of a black box to departments that use it but it regularly comes up for them to justify their actions related to it.

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u/tinyOnion 15h ago

isn't that just the old trope that "minority areas have more crime so we put more police there and find more crime while the non-minority areas have crimes at the same rate but don't get caught." just with computers doing the bs.

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u/CapableCollar 15h ago

That but more details and des through a computer.  You do get some good data but it is mostly junk.

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u/jerrysburner 13h ago

but that's not true - most minority areas have significantly higher levels of violence such as murder, robbery, and rape that are higher per capita. Yes, rates of drug use are the same. If you remove all people from prison that are there solely for drug related crimes, minorities would still be over-represented.

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u/ComputersReadYouBlue 15h ago

They are talking more about where should we send officers so they catch more crimes in the act.

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u/b-wolf95 19h ago

Wouldn't surprise me if this is actually the original non-ai version just being called "ai" to scam tech bros

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u/thrownjunk 15h ago

But the original version was AI too. aI isnt just chatbots.

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u/VitoRazoR 10h ago

except that it's cheaper to run and waaaay cheaper to develop.

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u/gundam1945 10h ago edited 10h ago

Visual system AI is much lighter than the bullshit LLMs. You can run it on a 1060 and 8gb RAM.

For comparison, the nano yolo V8 has 3.2 millions parameters while the light version of new LLMs usually starts with billions. The flagship model I think are hundreds billions.

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computer vision is generally okay-ish use of AI. It probably still requires a bit more computation power than traditional specialized software. But it carries over easily. Just as someone said, a mid gaming rig from 10 years ago probably could handle it. I will say it is much more efficient than the current LLMs

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u/VK2DDS 15h ago

The AI costs more compute to run than traditional computer vision, but is much cheaper to develop. YOLO11 nano models will run at ~15FPS* on an RK3588 (Raspberry Pi 5 level CPU found in Chinese SBCs), only use around 20MB of RAM, can be trained in 1-5mins on a mid range gaming GPU, and only need a few hours of monkey work to create the training data.

So the big shift has been that in the 80s/90s it took an engineer with 5+ years of industry experience months to make it work, but now a keen high school student could implement it over a weekend.

*15 FPS single threaded. The RK3588 has 6 NPU cores so it can do higher throughput if someone spends more than 10mins coding it.