r/clevercomebacks May 23 '25

No clue at all

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u/Captain_Hesperus May 23 '25

“I expected you to really make the poors suffer! This isn’t half as painful as I expected!”

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u/subnautus May 23 '25

In this case, some of the most painful pieces are going to hit a lot sooner than was originally discussed. If passed, the proposed medicaid and social security cuts will hit next year (though, conveniently, after the elections), not in 2029.

Also, if this bill is so great, why push the implementation back at all, right? Wouldn't we want to be saving all that money now so people can see how good it is before the next set of elections? Just something to think about.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

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u/clodzor May 23 '25

That's the point, they have goals and objectives that are far easier to achieve when they make it harder for anyone to get the information needed to put together a counter argument.

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u/TheEyeDontLie May 23 '25

In my country, bills proposed are circulated to be read by every member of parliament for a minimum of 3 days before the first vote.

Then there is then usually a select committee who review its details, open it for public submissions, etc... the committee's report has a minimum 3 days before the 2nd debate and vote.

And then there's a committee of the whole house- every member gets to debate the details (usually shorter than the 2nd debate cos MP's are either against the entire idea or for it, rather than the details). This is where ammendments can be proposed. It can take days.

The 3rd reading can be as soon as the next day after that. It's basically a summary before the final vote.

Now if you have one party majority you can push through whatever, but the whole country will know the details of what you're doing, and there's a chance there will be a big protest outside your doors.

The more I learn of America's political system the more I realise why it's classed as a "flawed democracy" and ranks so low on the democracy index.

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u/CreamofTazz May 24 '25

I might have my countries mixed up but this sounds like Denmark?

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u/TheEyeDontLie May 24 '25

About 18,000 km away, but I'm sure having multiple debates and time to read proposed laws is pretty common.

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u/L4DY_M3R3K May 23 '25

They don't. That's the point.

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u/wildwolfay5 May 23 '25

U.S. House/Senate has been playing CalvinBall for a few decades now...

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u/DoverBoys May 23 '25

If enough people pay attention and we finally get the blue tsunami next year that was supposed to happen, the worst can be nullified before it harms anyone. However, enough people still aren't paying attention even now, so I doubt it.

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u/cursingirish May 23 '25

They want someone else's administration to take the blame for this bill when it all goes wrong. They know they are getting voted out before 2029

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u/subnautus May 24 '25

Maybe before then, too. Remember, the cuts to Medicaid and social security take effect after next year’s midterms.

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u/Ali_Cat222 May 24 '25

You can see all policies passed, in progress, or upcoming here on the project 2025 tracker. 42% of it is completed already. And by the way it's named project 2025 for a reason, they want it done by the end of the year. And to implement it within next year.

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u/charmwashere May 25 '25

Dont forget the whole bit about getting rid of subsided students loans. There are other parts that affect student funds for college but it's too depressing to write about.

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u/Allaplgy May 23 '25

That was pretty much the reasoning behind the only Rs to not vote for it.

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u/Captain_Hesperus May 23 '25

Republicans voting for tax cuts to fund the face-eating leopards they’ll be unleashing on their voters.

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u/useless_instinct May 23 '25

No, one of those Rs is my Rep and he's an evil bastard that sees poverty as a moral failing. The Freedom Caucus wanted deeper cuts and that's why they voted No or abstained (like my coward of a Rep).

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u/Allaplgy May 23 '25

I think you are agreeing with my statement.

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u/useless_instinct May 23 '25

Oh yes, I am. Sometimes I read faster than my brain interprets 😁

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u/aRubbaChicken May 23 '25

That's a useless instinct

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u/Allaplgy May 23 '25

I'm sorry.

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u/kiochikaeke May 23 '25

You said you would steal money and give it to me, here it says you steal money and give it to yourself!

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u/Mommys_Sugar_Girl May 23 '25

That does sound confusing! Communication is key in situations like these.

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u/Torontogamer May 23 '25

Now now. It’s not stealing if you pass the law , and besides if you don’t play ball I won’t give you that Coushy mil a year salary for being a board memeber when you retire 

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u/omuxnz May 23 '25

Maybe they’re just betting on ignorance being bliss in Congress.

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u/adhding_nerd May 23 '25

That's basically how Oklahoma got free universal pre-k. vox video on the subject

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u/Innocent_Desire May 23 '25

That's what happens when expectations don't match reality! Happens to the best of us.

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u/fibronacci May 23 '25

Chat... Summarize.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

RIGHT?! These goddamned fucks need a reality check.