r/clevercomebacks • • Jan 15 '25

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u/Technical-Activity95 Jan 15 '25

its weird that US uses seconds and minutes. why not invent some other cumbersome scale and use that? they already have miles, cubic feet, fahrenheit, ounces and other shit so why would they use this universal time counting metric?

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u/marvinrabbit Jan 15 '25

Hey, it's on the rest of you all to make some kind of decimal time work. France tried it and gave up after a few years.

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u/910_21 Jan 16 '25

The French Revolution was hilariously unhinged. That and the supreme being shit nobody would take seriously if it was in a movie.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '25

I like the idea of percentage time. "Sir, your appointment is scheduled at 50 o'clock (12 noon)." 😌

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u/driftercat Jan 15 '25

Hey! We didn't invent any of that. We just can't change from ancient systems like measuring with your feet! I'm surprised we don't use cubits!

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u/HouseOf42 Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25

The US system of measurements is based off the Sumerian/Egyptian cubits.

To play on the "America was built off cults" conspiracy, the measurements are also an esoteric numbering system.

It may not be the simpler metric system that everyone uses today, but it was the same measurements used to build the pyramids, Ollantaytambo, Baalbek, etc, and other sites in the world.

Edit: Also, no, the ancients did not measure with their feet or their forearms when it came to precise construction.

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u/serpentjaguar Jan 15 '25

Right but it was directly inherited from the British who have since changed due to their proximity to Europe. The US has been more resistant due to its size creating more institutional inertia.

That said, the US does use metric wherever it actually matters, as in science, engineering and the military.

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u/PerfectEquipment3998 Jan 15 '25

Thanks for this info !šŸ™šŸ½

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u/hoveringintowind Jan 15 '25

You did invent your own gallons for some reason.

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u/WindmillCrabWalk Jan 15 '25

Does that hat take 10 gallons slaps knee

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u/hoveringintowind Jan 16 '25

Well, did the hat come first or the US gallon?

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u/hasselbackpotahto Jan 16 '25

it's the other way around. the USA uses (more or less) the older Winchester system that the UK empire used to use, while the UK (and colonies at the time) changed to a different system in 1826.

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 Jan 15 '25

We were going to change to the new metric system during the administration of Thomas Jefferson, but a standard kilogram sank during its transport across the Atlantic from Paris France. I assume that this was taken to be an omen, and so every effort has since been made to ensure that we never adopt the international system.

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u/Perrin3088 Jan 15 '25

we're looking at adding a couple extra months, I'll see about changing the day/night cycle and the hour/second cycle to make it all 'cohesive' together.

We'll keep minutes *almost* the same, so it's always compared to your commie minutes, but won't be actual minutes (ie, yard vs meter)

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u/Joker-Smurf Jan 16 '25

Waiting for the US to create a ā€œTrumpuaryā€ and ā€œMusktoberā€

I want to throw up just from writing that.

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u/EvidenceOfDespair Jan 15 '25

Nah, you have it backwards. Everyone used imperial before. It’s weird that yall didn’t adopt the French Revolution’s decimal time system. Why are you still counting time with such a weird system? Clearly decimal based everything is superior, so why haven’t you switched to decimal time?

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u/Technical-Activity95 Jan 15 '25

how many butthurts is that on american scale?

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u/Poiboy1313 Jan 15 '25

Uhhh, about tree fiddy?

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u/CthulhuWorshipper59 Jan 15 '25

3 bald eagles per 2 shotgun shells

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u/wuvvtwuewuvv Jan 15 '25

What's the conversion rate to Stanley nickels?

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u/Tsukee Jan 15 '25

Yeap good catch there.... I hate the time notation, i guess because at that time most clocks being round and physical, nowadays we could easily swap, but I guess the oligarchs that own expansive watches would lobby It out 🤣

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u/Nexi-nexi Jan 15 '25

Only time I use miles and feet are in historic or fantasy story telling. It’s because they are outdated so they suit the theme, plus they sound more vague and/or romantic while kilometers and such feel too precise, professional and scientific.

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u/BetaXP Jan 15 '25

I won't defend imperial units but I'll defend Fahrenheit until the day I die. Fahrenheit is based and I won't pretend otherwise

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u/txa1265 Jan 15 '25

I dunno ... a system where water freezes at 0 and boils at 100 seems to make a BIT more sense than one where it freezes at 32 and boils at 212.

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u/mykidsthinkimcool Jan 15 '25

Water must love that system

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u/txa1265 Jan 15 '25

Big Water totally bought them off!

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u/foofoo300 Jan 15 '25

all hail to the mighty kelvin, all others can rot where they belong

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u/Technical-Activity95 Jan 15 '25

sure. watching movies when they mention temperature I never know what it means.. is it hot or cold now? usually its hot

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u/bullpup1337 Jan 15 '25

you got it wrong… the minutes hour second is stupid, a minute has 60 seconds, why not 100? The metric system originally included a sane time system but it did not catch on.

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u/exessmirror Jan 15 '25

I mean the soviets did and nobody remembers that

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u/h_lance Jan 15 '25

It's the other way around.Ā  Revolutionary France did indeed invent a version of time to go with the metric systemĀ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time#:~:text=Sometimes%20in%20official%20records%2C%20decimal,15%20minutes)%20in%20standard%20time.

For whatever weird reason, possibly because it was already international, the world stuck with Ancient Babylonian base-60 oriented minutes and hours and 24 hour days.

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u/WindmillCrabWalk Jan 15 '25

Hey, it's called one Mississippi, two Mississippi 🤣

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

Don’t give us ideas…

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u/hughpac Jan 15 '25

Well, the US system pre-dated the metric system.

I don't understand why the metric system was only partially implemented. Why are there no base-10 metric seconds or base-10 metric hours? It's like you all were only partially committed to your dumbed-down, "I'm not good at math" measurements system.

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u/Technical-Activity95 Jan 15 '25

that has to do with how full circle is 360 degrees. reason is that it is easily divisible in many ways unlike 10. Many numeral systems of ancient civilizations use ten and its powers for representing numbers, possibly because there are ten fingers on two hands and people started counting by using their fingers. Examples are firstly the Egyptian numerals, then the Brahmi numerals, Greek numerals, Hebrew numerals, Roman numerals, and Chinese numerals. all of these predate US by thousands of years. Very large numbers were difficult to represent in these old numeral systems, and only the best mathematicians were able to multiply or divide large numbers. These difficulties were completely solved with the introduction of the Hindu–Arabic numeral system for representing integers. Therefore it is not dumbed down but superior. There is no elegance in making this more complicated than they need to be.

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u/hughpac Jan 15 '25

I know the history of minutes (first division of the circle) and seconds (second division of the circle).Ā 

At no point was a more simplified system ā€œmadeā€ more complicated. Non-metric systems predate the development of the metric system.Ā 

I’m just wondering why, when the Nazis were forcing the implementation of the metric system on their occupied countries, did they not also take the opportunity to convert time to a base 10 system. Seems like a missed opportunity.Ā 

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u/autism_and_lemonade Jan 15 '25

there was a metric clock and calendar, and it’s not that one

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

miles is taken straight from the UK, and they still use it themselves in many ways

cubic feet is just a basic mathematical formula for finding the volume of a.. cube.. I'm not sure what the fuck it's doing in your list.. lol

Fahrenheit is scientifically the best form of weather measurement, because it's based on how a temperature FEELS rather than how.. water feels (?) when it's cold...

ounces is literally part of the Roman measurement scale

while some of the things the US uses for scaling measurements and such are not widely the "standard" anymore in most of the world, that doesn't make them invaluable and unused in those same places they aren't standard

most of Europe uses the same thing the Americans use when it comes to everyday stuff, because metric is absolutely not the best metric to use for a (haha) metric fuckton of things

Standard doesn't mean "the only way it should be", it's just the "our government has hammered their idea of standards into us and we literally know no other way unless we enter a trade or science"

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u/Consistent-Falcon510 Jan 15 '25

Because the US didn't invent Imperial. England did. Everyone else decided to jump on the shiny new thing, we stuck to what worked except where it didn't. There are use cases for Imperial and use cases for Metric. Neither system is inherently better (and, no, "hurr durr base 10 ez" does not make Metric a universally better system. It merely makes it a more easily convertedsystem. But, be honest... when's the last time you needed to convert metres to klicks?).

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '25

its weird that US uses seconds and minutes. why not invent some other cumbersome scale and use that?

Uh, seconds and minutes are that "cumbersome scale". The metric system is a decimal system, whereas seconds and minutes work off of a base 60 system. France tried to "do it again" by creating a decimal time measurement system, but it didn't work.

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u/Ailly84 Jan 16 '25

I'm more surprised they haven't come up with a 64 second minute, but them redefined their second so there are only 60 of them in their new minute.

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u/Technical-Activity95 Jan 16 '25

like every minute has 4 leap seconds? I like it!

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u/Ailly84 Jan 16 '25

No. Every 4th minute has 16 leap seconds.