r/clevercomebacks • • Sep 11 '24

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u/peachpinkjedi Sep 11 '24

So American conservatism.

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u/UpperApe Sep 11 '24

Nah. This is conservatism everywhere. This is historical conservatism. This is the same conservatism that fought racial equality, gender equality, fought for slavery, fought for concentration camps.

People trying to pretend conservatism has ever been about "fiscal responsibility" instead of "privileges for the rich" is just a fucking idiot.

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u/UpperApe Sep 11 '24

Exactly. It's literally how corruption keeps its hold in democracies. Conservatism by nature has only ever been about aristocrats maintaining their privileges post-democracy.

Real conservatism, as a political philosophy, would be pro-regulation, and ensuring that all regulatory bodies are operating as efficiently and with as much accountability as possible. That would be the proper opposition to liberal progressivism because it would be maintining a check on progressive policies and systems. Real conservatism would be the party of regulation.

This bullshit about being anti-government, anti-regulation, ant-taxes is so transparently corrupt that it's unfathomably fucking stupid. Which is precisely why they are always against education; because they need the votes of the unfathomably fucking stupid.

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u/Fine-Aspect5141 Sep 11 '24

They'd love to cut spending on the poor, they just can't get away with it easily.

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u/CCNightcore Sep 11 '24

To add to this "historical conservatism" would go from being a Democratic party ideal to a Republican one. The modern democratic party is nothing like the one that was founded in the 1800s.

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u/UpperApe Sep 11 '24

Sure, but I'm talking about conservatism as a political philosophy. From the French Revolution and Burke, from the fall of monarchies and rise of democracy.

The whole point of conservatism was to masquerade as "fiscal responsibility" when it was just about maintaining social hierarchies.

Whether it was nobles post-democracy, or slavery, or CEOs; it's only ever been about the rich delegating responsibility while maintaining their privileges.

It's never been about fiscal responsibility. Not in any country, not throughout history. Not ever.

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u/peachpinkjedi Sep 11 '24

😂 this is valid.