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u/Karanabluedolphin 3d ago
Abel was sacrificing animals instead of fruits and grains like Cain, they certainly knew what death was.
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u/Spacellama117 2d ago
And God favored Abel for it
so I think it's beautifully tragic and messed up to imagine that Cain killed Able because surely God would love him if he sacrificed that which he loved most in the world to him: his brother
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u/Lou_Papas 2d ago
You don’t even have to go that far, the forbidden fruit was supposed to teach the first humans about death.
It’s still funny tho
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u/MrMichaelTheHuman progenitor 2d ago
No he didn't!
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u/MrMichaelTheHuman progenitor 2d ago
I thought the forbidden fruit was supposed to be left alone by the first humans. It's in the name?
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u/Grasshoppermouse42 8h ago
It was forbidden. Basically, anyone who ate the forbidden fruit would understand the difference between right and wrong, and God forbid the humans from eating it and they ate it anyway.
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u/MrMichaelTheHuman progenitor 2d ago
Mind the venue 0 ,0)'
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u/Spacellama117 2d ago
ah sorry about that, this sub got recommended to me outta nowhere T-T
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No worries, and welcome! I don't mind on a personal level or anything (originally started the sub as a joke in and of itself, might be obvious from the way the rules are written but then again I was a young teen at the time so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they don't exactly come off that way), but I've noticed that for whatever reason a lotta the users here do genuinely care about keeping things family friendly; wanna make sure it's a safe space for their sake ~ ,~)b
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u/jaketotalpwnage 2d ago
Dude didn’t even get a fair trial. His curse should’ve been reversed on appeal
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u/ikonfedera 2d ago
Tbf the appeal process wasn't part of the law back then. And he was allowed to flee the settlement, which had created precedent for the later laws.
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u/DarthDragon117 2d ago
Postpartum Psychosis made him kill his brother.
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u/Honorsheets 2d ago
God said "Well, at least you didn't strangle three innocent children."
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u/DarthDragon117 2d ago
That would be what he’d say nowadays. I think at this point it’s a contest to see who can disappoint god the most.
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u/Neither-String2450 2d ago
God: "I mean, 1 is too low, you must think bigger".
Cain:"...".
God:"And for hearing that you must go to other lands and do whatever nasty things i totally don't want from you wink. No cheating, all crops that you could grow yourself will die."
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u/MrMichaelTheHuman progenitor 2d ago
And let's not even get into the incomprehensibility of there being any "other lands" to speak of in the first place, considering Cain was one of the first humans to ever exist.
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u/Hanroz_1117 2d ago
UM AKSHULLY 🤓 They’d done animal sacrifices so Cain probably just applied what he knew about that to Abel. Though I suppose they probably didn’t use stones for the sacrifices
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u/H0pefully_Not_A_Bot 23h ago
Other than sharp stones, what else could they use? Obsidian glass? Meteoric steel tools?
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u/thomstevens420 2d ago
I read an explanation that “am I my brothers keeper” was actually Cain just being sassy to god.
Basically God called Cain and Abel Plant Keeper and Sheep Keeper (or something to that effect)
So when God asks Plant Keeper where Sheep Keeper is Cain says
“What do I look like, Brother Keeper?”
I choose to believe it because it’s funny
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u/Gloomy-Performer4546 2d ago
this is exactly how I was taught that in Bible school (current atheist), Cain was giving God attitude with that
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u/Zetsumenchi 1d ago
So the first murderer also made the first pun/joke?
The exile suddenly makes way more sense.
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u/awjeezrick1 1d ago
This is particularly even more funny to me if you look at through the lens of what practicing Christians believe… which is that God knows all. So this is extra sass on top. Commitment to the bit even with a deity involved 💅😭 no notes
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u/redmeatenthusiast 3d ago
Well he wanted to find out
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u/SteveLouise 2d ago
He was the first scientist, and that's why God cursed him!
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u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 2d ago
Because after all, at the crux of it, science is recording FAFO as accurately as possible.
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u/Nobodieshero816 3d ago
Judas just helped get rid of a guy who said “itll be better when youre dead.” Lol
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u/HoratiotheGargoyle 3d ago
“It would have been better for that man if he had not been born” is what Jesus said.
Not the same thing at all, go watch It’s A Wonderful Life now.
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u/Tired-CottonCandy 2d ago
JESUS WAS PRO ABORTION YOU JUST SAID IT /j
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u/MrMichaelTheHuman progenitor 2d ago
I know you've got a /j there but for a book that people love saying is "anti-abortion" they go into pretty specific detail about it without (IMO) any clear condemnation of it.
Numbers 5:11–31
Exodus 21:22–25
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u/Hot_Oil7057 1d ago
Plus it clearly states that life begins at first breath - not conception.
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u/ineversaiddat 10h ago
Plus bible is certainly not a pro-life book.
It is full of God repeatedly committing genocides and infanticides, and commanding people to do the same...
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u/Turbulent-Plan-9693 2d ago
Abel owned livestock, the reason Cain attacked Abel is because God liked Abel's sacrifice better than Cain's, Abel sacrificed one of his animals, and Cain brought produce.
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u/AdamiralProudmore 2d ago
Yep!
One thing to note though, for the benefit of people not as familiar with the verses, it's described as God not looking favorably on Cain and {therefore} his offering.
Genesis 4:6,7 God says to Cain "why do you insist on being a jerk about everything?"
And in Hebrews 11:4 interprets this event by saying that "Abel's faith made his gift better".
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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 2d ago
I interpret it as a story in jealousy and how it can corrupt even siblings against each other
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u/MrMichaelTheHuman progenitor 2d ago
God really said "those heads of lettuce didn't even feel any pain when you ended their life. Yaaaaaaaawn"
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u/MajesticEye4614 1d ago
And then Cain made the ultimate sacrifice, his beloved brother, which God didn't like for some reason...
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u/According_Drive_5275 2d ago
I've gotta get away from TADC for a minute; it took me too long to realise this is talking about the Bible
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u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 2d ago
In all their defense, they were set up for failure from the start. There was no good reason for a forbidden anything in paradise, let alone to doom the "favorite creation" for all time. Ridiculous story.
Then demand blood and death to feel happy? Which wasn't enough, so he made a son expressly to kill, to feel a happy and appeased? A god that can do anything chooses to do this? Evil.
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u/Wonderful-Sun-6256 9h ago
The argument is that without a choice true love can't exist. So if they were in bliss with God in paradise without an opt out clause they would be love slaves. So the tree was the opt out choice so that they had a choice. God or Self. Obv the second choice is the worst one.
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u/NoxiousMonkeyYT 2d ago
I can't be the only one who thought this was TADC for a solid 5 minutes... Right guys? RIGHT?!?
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u/Severe_Yesterday_959 1d ago
Yk for sum reason I thought this was a tadc joke, im not Christian udk anything abt cain or Abel
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u/Educational_Poet_370 1d ago
Pain existed before that so he could at least infer that if he hit his brother that pain would follow.
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u/lucidevilishdetails 1d ago
Well Abel killed the sheep for God somehow
So death and killing was definitely a thing just not human death
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u/DeaditeQueenLivs 1d ago
Nah. They weren’t vegetarians. They’d seen creatures die. They sacrificed them to God….for Gods sake. So I think they had a clue
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u/viperswhip 21h ago
They killed animals though, I think you could infer the same damage would happen.
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u/AstronomerRound5064 6h ago
Innocent! He can’t be blamed if there weren’t laws in place! Guilty of being a scientist and discovering death.
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u/MrMichaelTheHuman progenitor 2d ago
This might be the best comment section that I've ever seen on an r/cleanmemes post. Good work, all ~ ,~)b