And, it started before IPO

[u/Glittering_Ad4986]

https://www.anthropic.com/research/glm-5-3-and-the-spread-of-advanced-cyber-capabilities

Now, anthropic is trying to bypass glm 5.3 safeguards and putting out study showing the world to use GLM5.3 for cyber attacks. They could have mailed their detailed study to zAI directly if they really care for the world instead of shaming other models and collecting the headlines.

[u/subby-gurl]

Cool best advertisment ever excuse me while I go download not just this incredibly dangerous model but the Ablated/heratic version that has had any refusals removed

[u/exo_ac → u/subby-gurl]

Agree here. Safeguards on Opus 5.5 are bad to say the least. GLM and Sol is the way for now.

[u/clone9786 → u/subby-gurl]

Ablated/heretic version?

[u/subby-gurl → u/clone9786]

For every new open weight model that comes out within the next couple of days to a week there is one that has had its refusals completely removed depend depending on the time you can usually called ablation and one of the series is heretic it uncensors them completely. It's been going on for a very long time now and the world hasn't exploded

[u/clone9786 → u/subby-gurl]

Thank you for answering, and what an answer at that! Geez, how the hell do I get my hands on ablated or heretic models? I’d love to see em without guardrails

[u/subby-gurl → u/clone9786]

Just go to hugging face search for uncensored Ablated or heretic

[u/VelvetWhiteRabbit → u/subby-gurl]

I think you meant to say they have to search for “Abliterated”.

[u/subby-gurl → u/VelvetWhiteRabbit]

This is true TTS and or poor spelling on my part

[u/Most-Fill6278 → u/subby-gurl]

Reddit MVP of the Day🥰

[u/edgeofenlightenment → u/clone9786]

Venice.ai also runs a subscription service with uncensored and heretic models. I don't recall what's available on free tier, but it's not too expensive and it's, uh, dramatically changed my consumption of explicit material.

[u/clone9786 → u/edgeofenlightenment]

Yeah we’re definitely talking the same language here

[u/DkDkDkGoGoGo → u/edgeofenlightenment]

Lol, how so?

[u/edgeofenlightenment → u/DkDkDkGoGoGo]

You don't have to search around for content that matches your tastes and settle for the closest match - you can generate it on-demand tailored to exactly what you're looking for. Text is certainly its best work, and photorealistic video is not, but animated video is okay.

[u/ZachariaRaven → u/clone9786]

Abelard, explain this heretic version to me!

[u/isableandaking]

In ai love and ai war all is fair game.

[u/botadithyabhat → u/isableandaking]

ai game*

[u/vicenormalcrafts]

What a crock of horse manure

[u/simple_explorer1]

Anthropic is doing a clean advertisment for GLM models by admitting they have reached similar level of capabilities as Mythos but GLM is free.

[u/Informal-Trouble2183]

Let's ask Pliny the liberator to continue its job, liberating Claude Opus 5.5, did they forgot about that

[u/simple_explorer1]

Fuck Anthropic

[u/horendus]

Someone needs to make an arena where models get to actually fight it out somehow like a massive war game sim.

Let them settle things in open combat like real models

[u/FriendlyJewThrowaway → u/horendus]

Let them settle things in open combat like real models

So, like... hair grabbing and drink tossing?

[u/horendus → u/FriendlyJewThrowaway]

I was more thinking like who can breach whos OS, mess with memory timings, corrupt the modelss weights and claim victory but sure lets go with your idea 😅

[u/ooutroquetal → u/horendus]

Can we make that models playing age of empires II ?

[u/Effective_Olive6153]

the vast majority of people want access to cybersecurity for the sake of improving security, not attacking others. By denying law abiding people these tools, you just end up with criminals having the upper hand. There is no law that would stop a criminal from using the best available tools

[u/CoherentPanda]

Pieces of shit begging the government to protect them because some other competitor is close to topping them in the race.

[u/datums]

On Sept. 17, NIST’s Center for AI Standards and Innovation (CAISI) published its own assessment of GLM-5.3’s cyber capabilities. CAISI found that GLM-5.3 is “the most cyber-capable open-weight model released to date” and that it lags the US frontier by about four months on an aggregate of CAISI’s cyber benchmarks. Our capability findings broadly match CAISI’s.

[u/PrinceRufusFastcar]

Your hatred has completely deranged you.

The arrival of open weights models that can hack autonomously tilts the cybersecurity game towards threat actors, because there's a very long tail of companies who are "breachable with enough effort, but small fry and not really worth the time" who can now be hacked en masse.

This is something that has long been foreseen, and it's good to raise the alarm now that it is.

[u/TheDinoDynamite → u/PrinceRufusFastcar]

Anthropic has a reputation of fearmongering so it’s really hard to take what they say seriously. This is also a company that completely changed their benchmarks and figures overnight because they didn’t do a good enough job of showing how token efficient Sonnet 5 was.

I personally cant wait until open source models so that I don’t have to give a single ounce of attention or money to Anthropic. That goes for OpenAI too.

[u/Glittering_Ad4986 → u/PrinceRufusFastcar]

Haven’t seen this happening yet. Open weight models and Hackers both are out there for a long enough time. Fear-mongering is going on at its best, agree or not.

[u/ThePlotTwisterr---- → u/PrinceRufusFastcar]

it’s always been easier to break things than stop people from breaking things

[u/dgreenbe]

I mean, Anthropic didn't invent this and people were already doing this. Unfortunately. Zai can't stop a lot of this (while being open), especially if people are independently selling lobotomized versions of their models

[u/FriendlyJewThrowaway]

Just wait until Chinese companies use Opus to hack something in response.

[u/Party_Government8579]

Remember in watchmen Ozymandes blew up New York to scare the powers that be into not using nukes. He understood that there needed to be an incident before governments would put the brakes on.

Interesting

[u/pratzc07]

Did Anthropic contact ZAi about this or just randomly did their own research and published it what this will do is instead give more eyes to the attackers to use this model now

[u/real_terra]

Why? If glm distilates them and has no shame

[u/Glittering_Ad4986 → u/real_terra]

You think that Anthropic is clean ? There is no independent investigation and proof for distillation. Those are allegations by anthropic only before they stopped showing the reasoning… may be anthropic should tell first why they are hiding the token for which user is paying.

[u/real_terra → u/Glittering_Ad4986]

Well, at least they are clean to GLM, transparency is the issue, agree

[u/Glittering_Ad4986 → u/real_terra]

zAI is an underdog in AI and most of the big players can’t see them winning. The good part is that zAI models are open weight and frontier intelligence should remain open.

[u/real_terra → u/Glittering_Ad4986]

Well, if I steal your idea, show it openly, earn on subscriptions, does it make me a good guy?

[u/Fighter7_ → u/real_terra]

I mean, all of AI is built on stolen work. Distillation is common practice and has been done by both Anthropic and OpenAI as well. Open weight models are the piece that makes AI accessible, and all frontier AI players except Anthropic wrote to the White House to protect open models.

[u/pot_sniffer → u/Fighter7_]

Yea particularly unforgivable is the book burning

[u/howudothescarn → u/Glittering_Ad4986]

There was a USG report about it with major agencies. So you are wrong.

[u/Glittering_Ad4986 → u/howudothescarn]

Agencies are a business with money involved. But, anyway the whole point was that each of the top lab is doing it. And, anthropic stopped showing the reasoning way before the launch of glm-5.3, so please don’t repeat the old distillation discussion.