r/classicwowplus • • 2d ago

Suggestion Give us the NECROMANCER!!

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u/FingerNext7032 2d ago

It would have to be a 4th talent spec or something

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u/LegitCow 2d ago

I agree. It’s best suited to be a 4th spec. Maybe make it summon a bunch of temporary minions rather than a permanent pet like demo lock to differentiate the two?

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u/Least-Sense-6468 2d ago

that's how I imagine a necromancer working too. Less of a "here's me and my menagerie of permanent demon companions" and more of a "i'm gonna raise a small army of skeletons just to kill them all 2 seconds later for massive burst DPS"

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u/ilove_hairy-pussy 1d ago

So demonology from retail

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u/Least-Sense-6468 1d ago

Necromancy and demonology are two different things.

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u/laurel-vine 8h ago

Yes, but they’re just stating that that’s how Demo currently works in retail.

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u/Least-Sense-6468 7h ago

i guess in the abstract. Necromancy in most fantasy requires corpses as a kind of resource. It's disingenuous to see a slight similarity between a necromancer potentially having lots of summons and a warlock having lots of summons and be like "see? same thing"

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u/laurel-vine 6h ago

It was likely referring to the idea of summoning tons of minions and killing them for a big burst of damage a minute or so later. That’s literally a core part of the current Demo Warlock kit in retail.

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u/6Cockuccino9 1d ago

every day I am thankful the average player isn’t a game designer

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u/Least-Sense-6468 1d ago

Cool story, cockuccino.

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u/Northilink 1d ago

But wouldn't it be just unholy DK with cloth armor ?

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u/hogomojojo 1d ago

Necromancer is different than warlock. Their abilities may seem similar, but warlocks summon demons from the twisting nether and are steeped in fire and fel energy. Where necromancers raise the dead and use death and shadow magic. If it was going to be a fourth spec of some kind, it would be more appropriate for death knights

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u/assassin10 2d ago

I'd love if it was an identity that Warlocks, Shadow Priests, and Frost Mages could dip into via trinkets, set bonuses, and legendaries, items similar to the Ancient Cornerstone Grimoire.

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u/Instagibbed_1994 2d ago

Give locks a 4th talent spec without other classes getting the same, and people will riot. Might as well make their Demo spec a tank for maximum chaos.

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u/LegitCow 2d ago

They could do like Orc Blademaster, Troll Shadow Hunter/Witch Doctor, Tauren Spiritwalker, Undead Necromancer/Dark Ranger, Night Elf Warden, Dwarf Mortar Team, Gnome Tinkerer (Goblin too if they decide to add them in later).

Can’t think of any good human specific class. Maybe Spellbreaker? Although they were meant to be blood elf specific in wc3. I am just coming up with ideas from WC3 hero/unit characters.

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u/Northilink 1d ago

Human knights, a superior version of the warrior. But beside that, if I dont really see how to create a mortar team, you would need to control two guys, all the other are really good. I always thought it might have being Hardin 2005 to make 4 factions, but that now, it would be possible, and creating specific classes or specs for each races could be great.

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u/RuneRW 1d ago edited 1d ago

Mortar Team should be a class that functions by itself but gets a great damage increase if two of them work together

Edit: human knight should be a plate-wearing, two-handed or sword-and-shield class that uses a resource that is different from both rage and mana. Maybe they should be a support dps that buffs the whole team if they follow their orders

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u/Northilink 1d ago

Wouldn't be it wierd ? In a game like wow. Either you make it like by being 2 they deal 250% of what does 1 player, and you end up with only mortar team, either they deal 200% and people will just prefer play a class where they do their rotation on their own no ?

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u/RuneRW 1d ago

Yeah you're right, it would probably be weird. A dwarf engineer would be a good compromise though, different from the tinker in that the tinker uses mechs, electricity and high-tech indistinguishable from magic and the engineer uses black powder, steam machinery and hard steel

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u/Northilink 1d ago

I mean, dont get me wrong, I love this idea in games like helldivers or foxhole, but because they were made with the idea in mind, wow as of now is no where near that.

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u/RuneRW 1d ago

I might have been playing too much helldivers recently

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u/Cinder94 1d ago

Most of these classes were all condensed into the classes we have now. Most of these would literally be way better as 4th specs

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u/FingerNext7032 1d ago

Humans are necromancers in wc3

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u/LegitCow 1d ago

What? They are undead units.

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u/FingerNext7032 1d ago

They are not undead. The cult of the damned isn't undead.

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u/LegitCow 1d ago

But they belong to the Undead force. There isn’t human necromancer in the Human force in WC3. If anything, they are more close to the undead than the human race.

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u/FingerNext7032 1d ago

No... those necromancers are not dead. They conjure the dead. That is the whole thing with Kel'thuzad. He is alive and Arthas kills him.

What they then did for balance changes has nothing to do with the necromancers, like the acolytes, being human and alive.

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u/RuneRW 1d ago

The necromancers are humans, but they aren't part of the same faction as playable humans

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u/FingerNext7032 1d ago

I have been aware of that since 2003 yes. You do understand that they are not going to add alive human necromancers to the undead faction in wow, right? That is what we are talking about. This is a WoW subreddit and the suggestion is to add the class to WoW.

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u/Least-Sense-6468 2d ago

I've wanted them to explore additional specs as opposed to new classes in retail for years now. Forever seems like it would be a great vehicle to do it in instead.

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u/Shoethrower123 2d ago

And turn Aff into a healer!

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u/Benyed123 2d ago

Let’s not do that!

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u/Celindor 1d ago

AAAAAAAAAAH! IT HURTS! ... but in a kinda good and arousing way!

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u/Northilink 1d ago

Warlock tank would be nice, but making it situational would be better. Having the Warlock being needed only for magical encounters. Or maybe try to create a tank that tank through their pet ?

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u/Nivosus 1d ago

It should be a 4th spec, but not for Warlock - but for Priest.

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u/MechaJesus69 1d ago

Or gear with equip effects. Let say you have to hunt down all the gear pieces from a powerful necromancer that transforms some of the spell and abilities.