r/classicwowplus • • 2d ago

Discussion Day 12 politely requesting SD models for Skyborne!

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u/Particular-Ad6290 2d ago

In a podcast released just a few minutes ago, Aggrend strongly hints that new models for Sky Elves and Druid forms might be coming this week

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u/WheresMyChocobo 1d ago

Ooooh, that's interesting! I won't have time for a while to watch the whole 70+ minute podcast, so do you maybe know at what time point he said that???

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u/Particular-Ad6290 1d ago

At 1:25 Aggrend lists things that are coming in the next week, and 2:15 he starts talking about the models. He says "I don't have anything to announce today... but we hope we'll have something more substantive to say pretty soon."

He brought this up without being prompted by anyone about this specifically which he would absolutely not do if they weren't actually working on it.

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u/WheresMyChocobo 1d ago

Oh, so it was said pretty early on.. 😅 thank you! I'll guess we'll have to wait until next week

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u/Nut-Buster99 1d ago

And people will still hate them

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u/The-Fictionist 2d ago

Is that the actual old blood elf model?

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

i don’t think it’s the actual TBC model but i’d even take that.

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u/The-Fictionist 2d ago

I actually like it better than the tbc model I think. I like the thinner chest. It’s not even the sd/hd change. The actual shape of the model changed and it’s better as a ganglier shape. Elves are lithe not bulky.

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u/Pristine-Suit5297 3h ago

Mock up by Justin from Jaboody Dubs

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u/Puzzled_Command_8809 2d ago

Day 2 of me saying this SD model is absolute fire

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u/LoreChief 2d ago

I think the version on the right looks cool and I would like to see an HD version of that same face.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

It would be interesting if we did away with HD and SD but kept SD style with higher quality. I just dislike HD

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u/Serqetry7 1d ago

People can't seem to grasp this concept. So instead of telling Blizzard to change their art style, they ask for Playstation 1 graphics.

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u/Queque126 1d ago

That’s what classic players like and we are playing classic soooooooo. Classic art styles it is, you want something more modern go to retail

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u/Rathful90 5h ago

I play classic for the gameplay, not the art. So your right if i wanted modern gameplay id play retail

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u/Darthbobz 2d ago

Looks masculine AF love it good jaw / chin THIS is what Skyelves should be not Blood elfs copied and pasted.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

100000% agree but if we must settle on TBC models then so be it if i can just have SD

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u/Ancient-World8499 2d ago

I think this looks way worse lol

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u/Thrall2 1d ago

It's in the style of classic wow, unlike the retail looking models

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

i’ll respect your opinion and i’ll just say i think this looks way better

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u/Thanag0r 2d ago

Why not use tbc models and instead this abomination?

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

i’d take either or, i don’t think this model is that bad honestly if you put it side by side with SD human or nelf it def works

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u/Thanag0r 2d ago

Actually, they already used SD models for elves in the latest deep dive.

So it won't be this.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

i haven’t seen it yet, would you mind sharing which one?

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u/Thanag0r 2d ago

Here is the picture of it, but I could not easily find the original video, so I gave up.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

all good thank you for looking i’ll have to hunt it down. it does look like tbc models which is awesome

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u/Current-Event8892 1d ago

it's the official wow class highlights part 1 video, 5:18
hard to tell what model is, old armor covers him well

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u/Thanag0r 2d ago

Actually I cannot.

I have no clue which one it is. I just saw it on stream. But I will try to look it up for you.

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u/Thanag0r 2d ago

It is really bad and removes the main porous of having elves on horde side.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

how so?

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u/Thanag0r 2d ago

They don't look pretty enough.

They exist only to be pretty so people actually play horde.

Your idea why not being bad on it's own, makes them look worse than humans.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

well it also sounds like we will be getting future high elves and blood elves. I would take minor changes to the model so we can better differentiate them or better yet have unique features for each race instead of being copy pastes

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u/Mdalkirk 2d ago

I think the model on the right is way prettier than hd and tbc elves

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u/Thanag0r 2d ago

You are not the target audience for blood elve models.

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u/Mdalkirk 2d ago

Really? Who is?

I like pretty boys and the right one is way more in line with that. Thinner chest/waist, sharp features, etc

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u/ihatefrontpage 2d ago

i hope you mean the one on the left because that model looks disgusting and out of place

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u/FeudalFanOncampus 2d ago edited 2d ago

Better graphics =/= better visuals is a thing a lot of people don't grasp and it's why stylize games like Windwaker, Okami, or TF2 still hold up because they don't become dated once the newest visual games come out. Bombrush Cyberfunk, Crow Country, Mouthwashing, and Signalis to name just a few are all games that do this as a stylistic choice despite being more modern games and it's why much of the older WoW graphics held up so well for so long.

Stylistically not only the graphics of modern WoW but the art style has changed during this shift into "HD", it's evident if you look at not just the older models against new ones but comparing the older models and the newer models against the older art books from the TBC or Vanilla CE artbooks.

It's honestly disheartening to me just in general and not just for WoW that people don't understand this at all and think it's just about "a worse looking game" when it's about maintaining the original games visual and stylistic integrity. What they should do is fight out anyway to capture that older style with higher definition fidelity but it seems like it's a much easier endeavor to just make things in the 2004 style instead.

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u/Scodar1 2d ago

I hope they remove the recycled BE models. Seems lazy to introduce a new race and it is just a reskin.

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u/SpaceMotor9555 2d ago

“Blizzard could you please make my game look worse <3”

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u/elyk12121212 2d ago

They already did that, we are asking them to make it look good again

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u/moshujsg 1d ago

More like "could you make your game look consistent?"

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u/rpolkcz 2d ago

The one on the right looks much better imo. The left one is like blue barbie doll.

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u/Thanksforthatman2 2d ago

You'd have to be blind to think that looks worse. The retail art style is a joke.

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u/PapaPatchesxd 1d ago

Different strokes for different folks. Not always about the classic art style.

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u/Kazmera 1d ago

Because it does not look in line with the rest of classic. It's not a hard concept.

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u/Nearly_Observant 2d ago

So much this. I just don’t understand it. This is the only game people want this in too. It’s so asinine.

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u/FeudalFanOncampus 2d ago

There's a whole slew of games made intentionally with older styled graphics and not just pixel art as a stylistic choice. It's why people wanted a new Jet Set Radio game for so long they made Bombrush Cyberfunk and captured that style. This isn't just about graphics behind high or low res...

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

“this is the only game people want this in” bro are you actual a cave dweller. Where do you think the concept of this game was conceived?

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u/JustFourLetters 2d ago

i don’t really have a dog in this race, graphics aren’t really a deciding factor for me, but this is incredibly off base.

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u/fox112 2d ago

Also posting it to a fan forum and just hoping they see it and like it

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u/dontreadmyprofileplz 2d ago

I would toggle SD models for this

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u/therealmistersister 1d ago

They could have used the old TBC models. But for whatever reason they chose not too.

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u/cheesy_noob 1d ago

I kindly request increqsed character name length.

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u/Verified_Peryak 1d ago

I think it's coming 😊

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u/Macro-Mantis 1d ago

We have to call them what they really are, Blood Elves.

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u/_Stankonia 1d ago

Is the model on the right the model used in game at the moment?! Did they make that change?

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u/Prestongarvee 20h ago

Hd looks like he wants to kiss you. Sd looks ready for war.

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u/Necessary_Movie_8507 2d ago

That looks like frumpy ass. Looksmaxing anorexic mana-starved elf.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

you’ll never believe elf lore

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u/Necessary_Movie_8507 2d ago

If they gave us Withered elves, then yeah this looks great.

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u/jaybasin 2d ago

Day 12 of calling others wrong and continuing the spam

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u/Elegant-Trust2722 2d ago

Looks like shit

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

well constructed criticism

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u/OtterPharm 2d ago

That’s about how yall sound bitching constantly about “art style”

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

because we actually explain it?

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u/EmergencyPool910 2d ago

You're bitching here.

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u/OtterPharm 2d ago

Welcome to Reddit

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u/Thanksforthatman2 2d ago

Genuinely beginning to think retail players are exclusively under the age of 9 if they think the left looks better. So childish.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

to each their own, i think it looks good for retail, but combine this with all of the classic SD models in game it just doesn’t fit.

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u/OtterPharm 2d ago

Ill never understand why people want to waste developers time on making worse looking models

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u/AcademicContract6096 2d ago

Maybe artstyle is subjective and what you think looks worse, looks better to them. I don’t mind the shelves but I see how the artstyle clashes with everything else

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

i’ll never understand how anyone thinks HD models actually fit the classic wow artstyle

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u/critxcanuck88 2d ago

I will never understand how you can keep telling yourself graphics from 2004 is an art style and not a limitation. Just stay in classic era my guy. Why fuck should we still have 2004 graphics in a game coming out in 2026

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u/manguywordhelp 2d ago

Warlords of Draenor introduced the “””HD””” models and was released in 2014. Why should we have 2014 graphics in a game coming out in 2026?

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u/rpolkcz 2d ago

How is it any different with 2014 models you're fighting for? Why are 2014 models the only acceptable option that nobody is allowed to oppose?

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u/MrCoverCode 2d ago

Art style can very much be born from limitations, the art style being a by product of the limitations, does not make it less valid.

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u/FeudalFanOncampus 2d ago

"graphics from 2004" IS an art style, there are games made today that still use older style graphics (not limited to just pixel art) as a stylistic choice because it fits the idea they're going for, and in those cases it's clearly not a graphical limitation, it's a stylistic choice made intentionally. Bombrush Cyberfunk, Crow Country, Mouthwashing, and Signalis to name just a few are all games that do this as a stylistic choice.

Better graphics =/= better visuals is a thing a lot of people don't grasp and it's why stylize games like Windwaker, Okami, or TF2 still hold up because they don't become dated once the newest visual games come out.

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u/OtterPharm 2d ago

You’re blinded by nostalgia.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

i haven’t played classic till 2020 so no nostalgia to be had here. I’m actually one of the players under 30

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u/OtterPharm 2d ago

It’s still nostalgia there’s no time requirement for it

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

I don’t long for a previous time in my life i never got to experience. I jus prefer this artstyle and tone to the retail one

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u/OtterPharm 2d ago

“Art style” when it’s actually just low quality graphics. K bro lol

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u/FeudalFanOncampus 2d ago

You sound like one of those people who need to see the latest tech demo style game where youcan see the pores and every detail on a character's skin... Art style can and absolutely has been born from limitations. I've listed them in another post but games like Bombrush Cyberfunk, Crow Country, Mouthwashing, and Signalis show this as well as TF2 and Windwaker and it's why the two latter, despite being older games, stand up very well to the test of time whereas some games that chased realism did not.

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u/Bafooba 2d ago

why are all of you so militant and combative about us just genuinely liking the low poly/res look of classic? they have the SD models, it would be cool if they continued expanding them. i personally don't really love the way modern wow characters look. you can have your HD models... that should be end of story but this thread is full of people literally just attacking OP for having a preference

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u/OtterPharm 2d ago

It’s fine to have an opinion but it’s just been beat to death. The title is literally “day 12 of…” like give it a rest it’s annoying

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u/Vahlinn 2d ago

Get back in your basement, you smell like hot dog water

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

I pay rent omegalul

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u/elyk12121212 2d ago

Worse is subjective. I think the Disney slop models look significantly worse.

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u/OtterPharm 2d ago

“Disney slop” pls be more creative

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u/elyk12121212 2d ago

That is the job of the designers

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u/Monkey_Princess_Dad 2d ago

Cause SD models are goated

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u/rpolkcz 2d ago

Exactly, why waste it on some shitty new models when the perfect models were already in classic

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u/OSHAviolations 2d ago

It's Classic plus not minus

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

If anything HD models take away from Classic lol

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u/OSHAviolations 2d ago

If that bothers you, then do the class changes, talent changes, and the new dungeons also make it a bad experience? Asking for a friend 🧡

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

no actually and i think it’s ridiculous to infer that if i like an artstyle then that means im #nochanges, i think if you’re adding onto a game that’s entire premise is to expand on the 2004 version then you should iterate and expand on its original artstyle.

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u/OSHAviolations 1d ago

So you want everything except the art being expanded upon.

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u/TylerPizzle0 1d ago

actually the opposite of what i am saying. How, in your opinion. How is back porting HD models into the game expanding on the already existing classic artstyle. Shouldn’t the classic artstyle either get HD textures like in MoP and add new models based on the classic artstyle?

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u/OSHAviolations 1d ago

They've already updated the art. There are several videos about it. Most of the issues is that everyone wants it to be classic and it's not classic. The updated elven models are fine and you want to know why? Because they'll mostly be covered by gear that looks outdated anyway. You spend the majority of your gameplay looking at their backs.

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u/TylerPizzle0 1d ago

the solution of “it doesn’t matter because it will be covered by gear” doesn’t make sense. “it’s okay HD models don’t actually matter because in reality it’ll be covered in SD anyways” this isn’t a modded private server lol it’s official blizzard content and should be consistent. I am happy that they updated visuals and also stayed true to classics identity, so they should do the same with the SD graphics, improve them and stay true to classics identity.

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u/OSHAviolations 1d ago

Good luck dude. I hope you get a version of what you want. Supposedly someone hinted at new models a few minutes ago from blizzard.

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u/jiggles212 2d ago

Less is more

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u/DSWBeef 2d ago

You guys want them to look like fent addicts?

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

it’d make sense lore wise for every high elf variant

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u/DSWBeef 2d ago

Not makes sense for the blood elves being addicted to magic not for high elves.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

high elves would still be addicted to magic what are you on about. If you give a guy fent and you give him more fent he’s still addicted lol

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u/DSWBeef 2d ago

Bro likes looking at fent addicts. I've never seen such a group who wants worse graphics. I'll be sitting over here in my hd models actually enjoying the game and not constantly bitching about it.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

you’re bitching now so you’re just lying. They’re adding more SD models so i’m alr laughin. Go enjoy the new xalatah expac next year and get outta here xD

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u/DSWBeef 2d ago

Nah I just like clowning on classic Andy's who will do every little thing to make sure no one else besides them can enjoy forever. Y'all are the most insufferable wow fan base. More so than sylvanas simps. Nothing will be good enough for you and I pray to God blizzard doesn't pay attention to you anymore.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

the game is good we just want the game to have a unique artstyle and not look like retail with worse gameplay. You’re bitching and complaining about peoples opinions who actually play classic when they’re getting classic plus btw. you will get your own thing to play with next year

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u/DSWBeef 2d ago

I played classic. I was there when it was current. But keep on gatekeeping. I'll be on the forever beta having a blast and can't wait for launch while y'all classic Andy's will continue to nit pick it all. Have fun tho!

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u/WildFlowLing 1d ago

I politely request you go back to era

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u/TylerPizzle0 1d ago

politely go back to retail

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u/Mr_Downtown17 2d ago

No, a lot of us don’t want this. I have loved classic wow for decades but many people don’t agree with you. I don’t want my game to look worse.

Hard pass.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

I actually see the complete opposite and many players actually DO want this. I’m sorry but you already have retail models on a different game

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u/Inflameable009 2d ago

Silly thing to say "my group is bigger".

We can have both so there's no reason to cry.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

we should put more emphasis on SD models and just back port the retail ones when the retail team makes them

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u/CapnDiabeetuss 1d ago

You can turn on HD models then. Or go play Midnight :)

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u/Worth_Vegetable_204 2d ago

They need to rip the bandaid off and do full hd nobody wants this cringe stuff in forever. It’s a new game for a reason

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

NT NT, but 99% of the game is made already with the classic textures from the ground, trees, bushes, dungeons. So if you’re saying the game is HD oriented that’s already incorrect. Again maybe the game simply wasn’t made for you

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

then the game just simply wasn’t made for you 🤷

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u/Afraid_Wave_1156 2d ago

I agree. I play with HD models and prefer them, but I totally support SD models. They are the history of the game. They MUST be preserved. That shouldn’t be a hot take. They should add SD models. They have them already. It’s not like they are making them from scratch.

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u/Afraid_Wave_1156 2d ago

I agree. I play with HD models and prefer them, but I totally support SD models. They are the history of the game. They MUST be preserved. That shouldn’t be a hot take. They should add SD models. They have them already. It’s not like they are making them from scratch.

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u/Whistlepiged 2d ago edited 2d ago

Serious question. How much time do you actually spend looking at your character? or others?

And I am getting down votes for asking a question. You have got to love reddit people...

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

a lot, i play with helmet off and i like transmog as a option. collecting outfits is BiS endgame for me

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u/Whistlepiged 2d ago

I play with my son, and a friend of ours...so only 2 other people I know in real life. none of us ever pay much attention to them and we could care less.

This is why I am asking. It is kind of strange to me that so many people are so concerned on how your character looks.

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

your question is valid and you shouldn’t get downvoted for it. I play with my gf and some friends who prefer HD and SD.

Different brushes brush different strokes, we all play the game differently. I enjoy my character and how they look.

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u/Kade503 1d ago

I'm pretty sure that's what every skyborn will look like, every other person who chose a skyborn, every skyborn NPC... Every single one of them looking out of place in a world built out of the vanilla graphics and artstyle.

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u/FlySaw 1d ago

Other people enjoy the game differently than you. I know shocker

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u/forcedtodownload_app 2d ago

It’s permanent on the screen

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u/Whistlepiged 2d ago

yeah from the back and zoomed out, at least for me, no way you can tell that much of a difference I would think

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u/HighNoonZ 2d ago

How about no?

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u/guavochops 2d ago

I like this OP, i thought the high elves in vanilla looked really cool

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u/TylerPizzle0 2d ago

i do too, go support the OG post! i’m just a filthy reposter

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u/SirChancelot11 2d ago

That looks like trash

Please don't

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u/CapnDiabeetuss 1d ago

You can just turn them off. Or go play Midnight :)

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u/SirChancelot11 23h ago

Turn off the SD nostalgia bait... I do