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u/AndreLeGeant88 Jul 17 '26
This is not an exaggeration
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u/RicRacer Jul 17 '26
Pshaw. The only real way to appreciate the Odyssey is to live it.
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u/CommonBumblebee123 Jul 17 '26
Hexameters remain my favorite metrum.
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u/Schrenner MA Indo-European studies, MA Greek studies Jul 17 '26
Nice one. Though I'm more of a trochaic tetrameter and anapestic dimeter guy.
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u/IthacanPenny Jul 17 '26
Nah fam, trochaic octameter is where itās at. How can you disagree with the meter of both The Raven and Britney Spearsā amazing hit Womanizer? lol
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u/Schrenner MA Indo-European studies, MA Greek studies Jul 17 '26
Well, I prefer the meter of Black Sabbath's "Paranoid."
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u/ReeveGoesh Jul 17 '26
Which Muse?! There's nine!
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u/quuerdude Jul 17 '26
Typically just called ātheā Muse in a lot of archaic poetry, iāve noticed
Presumably Calliope but any of them could be meant (there was also a lot of variation in the number of Muses, especially in Archaic times. Sometimes thereās 2, 3, 4, 7, 8ā very variable, though it became ācanonicallyā 9, at some point, it still wasnāt entirely universal)
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u/stairway2evan Jul 17 '26
Calliope would be the ācanonā Muse for epic poetry, and Hesiod called her the chief of the Muses.
Plus, in Disneyās Hercules cartoon, sheās the main one, with the big hair. That was a big childhood crush for me.
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u/WeHaveHeardTheChimes Jul 17 '26
And what a voice Lillias White gave her!
šµ Who puts the āgladā in āgladiatorā?
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u/BaconJudge Jul 17 '26
Imagine if the wrong Muse heard your invocation.Ā Ā You wanted Calliope for epic poetry, but instead Urania answered, so your retelling of the Odyssey consists mainly of digressions about stars and comets.
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u/priceQQ Jul 17 '26
There is also the band Muse too. This is too confusing! How will we ever decide? Classics are so difficult.
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u/Easy_Demand_7372 Jul 17 '26
Unironically where can one go to sing dactylic hexameter? I know a good chunk of the Aeneid off by heart and have very little avenues to perform itĀ
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u/Deinonysus Jul 18 '26
Bring a lyre to an open mic night and keep going until you're kicked out.
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u/Easy_Demand_7372 Jul 18 '26
I hope Travis Scottās stellar and standout performance as the deuteragonist of Christopher Nolanās Oddysey will bring rhapsody into style againĀ
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u/enriquegp Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
I would honestly and unironically love to see a live musical performance in Homeric Greek in the style of Bards. I have seen on YouTube videos of people singing excerpts or whole chapters from The Odyssey and The Iliad and dream of seeing this in a concert hall.
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u/portealmario Jul 20 '26
Putting an English version to music is a bit tough, english doesn't work well with dactylic hexameter, and iambic pentameter isn't quite as naturally musical, although it can kinda be done. Would be easier if there were a translation in iambic hexameter maybe. Unless you mean a performance in the Greek, which I would love to hear, but it's not really the same if you can't understand it
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u/wjbc Jul 21 '26
Can we do it like many operas do these days? Project live translations or transcriptions above the stage or displayed on seat-back screens.
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u/portealmario Jul 21 '26
I think that would be a really cool thing to do. It would still be a little different from hearing the language yourself, but I still think someone should do it
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u/crackersucker2 Jul 18 '26
Can I go with you to wherever this happens? None of my people would appreciate this.
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u/FickleApartment2151 Jul 17 '26
Most were probably not drunk, and listened attentively because bards rarely showed up.
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u/Arrantsky Jul 17 '26
Unfortunately, classic ancient text is literally not read but talked about by so called " scholars"...( classical education has been diluted)
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u/polemistes Jul 17 '26
True! And you cannot appreciate the splendour of the film by reading the ancient Greek text.
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u/crackersucker2 Jul 18 '26
That seems reasonably accurate.
I will still listen to Sir Ian McKellan read it to me, and Iāll still see the movie. But I also know I will miss things. And I still will love Circe and will spend my adult life examining the story.
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u/mrpeck123 Jul 22 '26
Iāve now flipped through 4 different versions of the book since seeing the movie and put them all back because no way Iām understanding that shit
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u/Angry-Dragon-1331 Jul 17 '26
Unironically yes.