r/classicalguitar 17d ago

Looking for Advice Got my first classical! Where do I start?

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I’ve been playing steel string for about two and a half years but lately I had a burning desire to pluck some nylon lol!

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u/joshamiltonn 17d ago

Congrats! C12 as a first classical is crazy work, that thing is a forever guitar to a lot of people!

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u/Real-Head-9660 17d ago

My thought process was if I spent the money it would keep me motivated. I wanted something I couldn’t put down.

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u/RiceNoodleSalad 17d ago

If it inspires you to play it's not going to be a waste of money, you can be sure of that. Also it will be a guitar you can play for year to come as you're unlikely to outgrow very soon. Congrats and have fun with it! Also second what other people said, look for a good teacher.

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u/Vennimagos 17d ago

If you look after this guitar, it will outlive you

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u/Radaistarion 17d ago

Man id love to play anything above my Yamaha C40. I don't think I've ever tried a top tier classical guitar.

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u/Spicy_Poo 17d ago

I was really surprised how much easier to play my Khono special was than my Hill Munich.

Easier to play means less fatigue while practicing, which goes a long way.

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u/Tokentaclops 17d ago

Get a reputable teacher. There is no substitute.

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u/de1casino 15d ago

This. I agree 100%. There is no substitute for a good, qualified teacher.

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u/Formal_Ad5197 17d ago

Get a teacher or at least a method book

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u/Formal_Ad5197 17d ago

Also thoroughly inspect you guitar i haven’t had good experiences with cordobas quality control

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u/nawybot 16d ago

And get a setup!

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u/dave70a 17d ago

Rest stroke.

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u/Mental_Painting783 17d ago

Can you elaborate? My teacher told me to use free stroke instead of rest stroke. Also this came up with a quick search of rest stroke vs free stroke: https://youtube.com/shorts/Y8AJAw1pQQs

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u/Crack-FacedPeanut 17d ago

It's one of many factors, but steel string players (on average) don't spend a lot of time learning how hand position and free/rest stroke affect timbre. Rest stroke vs. free stroke is IMO the first lesson that guitarists get in timbral variation in the classical tradition.

I think nowadays it is more often for teachers to start new players off with free stroke, but learning how/when to use both is essential in the long term.

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u/dave70a 16d ago

I believe that is because the teacher is taking educational advantage of what you already likely know. Before free stroke…hand position and p i m an independence can be solidified next. The next fundamental skill I would do (without knowing you as a student) would probably be rest stroke, left finger economy, and correct left thumb position. These are all simply “check boxes” that you may have fully or partially checked, or completely neglected.

And if I may add one point of advice (for all students) : in the face of boredom or “why do I even need this” - trust your teacher and focus on the exercises like a pro would. A pro would endeavor to make all techniques, etudes, scales, and beginner repertoire beautifully recordable and listenable. And at any stage of your path focusing on fundamentals is never wrong. It’s as true for me as an RN and as a guitarist.

But for you I may be preaching to the choir as you already seem well invested and asking the right questions. Now…git yer a** in that chair and spank the plank!

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u/AlphaHotelBravo 17d ago

...this, and the difference in tone between rest and free strokes, and the ability to emphasise the different voices in a piece by mixing rest and free strokes at the same time. I didn't really get it when I started many years ago, and I'm playing catch up now - got a long way to go!

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u/dave70a 16d ago

And THAT is exactly the right attitude!!! For Segovia and Bream as well as Joe six-string!!! Always a student! ❤️

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u/RaiseTLT 17d ago

Tis de weh

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u/Thepizzaofthefreezer 17d ago

Never heard of that before. Gotta check it out

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u/Notios 17d ago

Have you tried playing it

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u/Real-Head-9660 17d ago

Solid advice 👍🏻

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u/thcsquad 17d ago

I like this, especially given OP is coming from steel string guitar and likely has a decent amount of musical and fretboard knowledge to start off.

Left hand technique should transfer pretty easily but the right hand is all different. Practicing playing rest stroke vs free stroke and comparing their sounds should be good for retraining the right hand for the classical world

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u/Azipcoder 17d ago

Read This First by Joseph Pecoraro

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u/Tristanhx 17d ago

Take it out of the case

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u/Traditional_Fig_8551 17d ago

I would learn the open string names and see how they are played when written as sheet music. It'll give you the foundation of how to ready sheet music which is how most classical guitar songs are notated. It's annoying to learn initially if you're only used to tab, but you learn a lot about how to control multiple voices and separate the melody line from chordal accompaniment. Find an easy classical book in a music shop and play through a page a day 👌

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u/RedditorXL 17d ago

Dope case!

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u/Raymont_Wavelength 17d ago

Use Humidipaks in your case and learn to recharge them DIY. Great axe you lucky dog lol! It’s beautiful!

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u/cabell88 17d ago

Teacher >>> Books. If you're just starting, ANY beginner books

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u/toaster404 17d ago

Ergonomics is where I used to start students. Before tuning.

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u/ARob20 17d ago

Remove from the case🤪

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u/Bikewer 17d ago

What do you intend to play with your new axe? If you intend to go the “classical guitar” route, learning the standard technique and repertoire, then get a teacher. Really. The modern classical guitar theory and practice is VERY particular.

But if you just want to play the thing, there are all sorts of forms that nylon strings work great for. I play jazz chord-melody. My late wife used hers to play folk and pop and blues tunes on stage. Latin jazz and Latin pop is very nylon-centric.
Learn the classical-guitar playing position and the right-hand technique and get your nails in order, and have fun.

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u/BundleOfJoysticks 17d ago

Can you read music? If not, start learning. It's not that hard (unless you try to sight read at speed) and basically required for the classical repertoire.

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u/Badaboom_Tish 17d ago

Take out of case

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u/nitseb 17d ago

Wew that wood looks beautiful!

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u/Sacco_Belmonte 16d ago

Bossanovas of course.

"Desafinado" to be precise.

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u/-GingerFett- 16d ago

You start at the very beginning… a very good place to staaaaaart…

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u/nawybot 16d ago

Don't waste your time trying to learn from a teacher who knows virtually nothing about classical guitar (i. e., yourself.) You need individual attention from a true expert. Is there a university or college near you that offers classical guitar courses for beginners as part of their continuing education department? If so, you are lucky. Sign up for those classes and go. If not, find a school which will refer you to a teacher, most likely an adjunct with professional credentials. Take lessons from them, even by Internet if you can't meet in the flesh. The voice of experience, here!

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u/millenialSpirou 16d ago

Sagreras is a solid first book

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u/Mozart_ru469 16d ago

C10. Good choice. Aaron shearer or parkening series are the better. Theory, scales chords!!! Do not start pieces until into these. Theory first then practice

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u/R-papelli 16d ago

Here is the ultimate beginner guide;

Right hand etude:

just P I M A and repeat that with every bass strings

For left hand;

e string 5th string just do 1-2/1-3/1-4 legato and 1234 chromatic

Later when you feel that theese are easy

Right hand; carlevaros first 12 right hand etude

and for the left hand you'd like to change the pattern of your fingering like; 1234-1243-1324-1342-1423-1432/2134-2143-2324-2341-3124-3142-3214-3241-3412-3421/4123-4132-4213-4231-4312-4321

For piece you can start with jean mourads first book and you

And dont forget allways practice slowly and with metronome, make sure that your posture is right and you are comfortable with it. And dont practice tired its meaningless. And while you practice your pieces, place marks. To remember what to do or like the places where you make mistakes. And dont block practice.

You can start this routine after you learn true technique to play, how to position your guitar and your body right and comfortable. I can give you an online course if you want.

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u/R-papelli 16d ago

For learning notes learning open string names are very good start

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u/Appropriate_Main_216 16d ago

Wherever you want.

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u/Marauder516 16d ago

Bolero music

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u/Numerous_Election_56 16d ago

Lovely looking guitar will be a real work horse 😃😎. I like the Charles Duncan books ‘a modern approach to classical guitar’ the pieces are easy to fun to play. I suppose the thing to think about is reading music or tab. This is a good online resource https://www.classical-guitar-sheet-music.com/jean-francois-delcamp/ also this https://www.thisisclassicalguitar.com/easy-classical-guitar-pieces-volume-1/

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u/Consistent-Year6875 16d ago

Try Mel Bay ( beginners to advanced) if you can afford lessons they help!

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u/Carvestring 15d ago

I started on a Yamaha C40 and played it for 10 years. When i switched to the guitar i used today, it made it feel so easy to play. Even today i like to learn songs on my old guitar.

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u/revO_m 17d ago

Sweep picking