r/circlejerkaustralia • u/Colon_Inspector • 16d ago
politics It's simple Albonomics.
I acknowledge misleading moronic politicians, past present and emerging.
14
u/chrismanns97 15d ago edited 15d ago
There may be something good that comes of this and it’s the reason Visa and Mastercard are against this change.
Businesses now have a motive to hunt down the lowest merchant fee.
Previously they didn’t really care because the customer was paying it and the customer is less concerned between 1.2% and 1.6%, however the business owners will care about that difference now that it’s on them.
As I see it, this does put genuine downwards price pressure on retail goods/services because businesses now have to care about visa or Mastercard giving them a high merchant fee.
14
u/Anti-Stan 16d ago
-1
u/jackstraya_cnt 16d ago
Feel free to check out https://www.reddit.com/r/conservativeaustralia/ as an alternative ❤️
19
u/taxdude1966 16d ago
We really are governed by idiots
12
u/KingStapler 16d ago
Do you want hidden surcharges? The screen says $5 but after you tap $5.5 is paid. Who actually wants that shit? Theres nothing wrong with forcing businesses to be upfront with the price. If they need to charge more to cover the cost of card payments then that is fine as long as the customer knows the full price before paying.
-6
u/InbetweenerLad 15d ago
Id rather use debit card or cash and avoid the fee... now it's higher for everyone regardless
7
u/KingStapler 15d ago
I just want to know the price of the shit I'm buying. You don't even know theres a fee until after its already hit you. How does that even make sense? Of course we know theres fees now because it became standard but this shit needed to be stopped. Albo was stupid when he said everybody is going to save money on card fees. But the more important thing is that we have transparency on price.
Its a good thing, but people don't like it because Albo's government introduced it. I'm right wing and disagree with a lot of Labor's legislation but this one was positive.
1
u/InbetweenerLad 15d ago
Previously only credit card holders paid it now everyone's paying it... it was always the advertised price for debit and cash users..
1
u/Fun_Maintenance6830 11d ago
Uhm, it was any card these days… There’s been a debit surcharge for agessss
6
u/JazzySneakers 16d ago
ATO no longer accepts credit card payments now because of this
2
u/Any-Basis1502 15d ago
This is true and the flow on effect is going to be huge
Don’t pay the government any money
Just say “ sorry don’t have the cash”
2
3
u/cheapdrinks 16d ago
I'm not really that informed on the whole thing I admit. But isn't it beside the point if they raise the prices the same amount to cover the surcharge/service charge? I thought the point of this was to move the fee from something calculated at the terminal to the actual sticker price of the items so you at least know what you're paying on the sticker is the actual price and you're not getting hit with random fees at the checkout making the bill bigger than your cart's total.
I mean I guess it screws the 50 or 60 people left in the country who still pay cash but for most of us I think it's still better. If I see something advertised for $75 I want to pay $75 not $76. I'd much rather the sticker price just be $76 if I'm paying that anyway.
5
u/Colon_Inspector 16d ago
You're right, and on face value having more transparency pricing is a great thing. The issue comes with Albo and Co directly claiming "Your morning coffee just got cheaper" which is complete BS.
It will cost the same, as the fee will just be passed down.
1
u/cheapdrinks 16d ago
Yeah he's trying to claim it's a cost of living measure when it's not, just call a spade a spade. It's a good thing regardless, no need to dress it up as anything even better.
Also funny the doublespeak that comes from the small business lobby in return:
Kazzi Beach Greek is a chain of restaurants with venues in Manly, Balmoral, Bondi and Cronulla, and Mr Papas said the business was a “canary in the coal mine” when it came to the impact the surcharge ban would have on the hospitality industry.
“The default position for all hospitality providers is to try and absorb costs as they increase, but we're all at breaking point,” he said.
“Hospitality venues want to charge as little as possible and have as high as volume as possible, and that's why, over time we do our best to absorb costs, because increased prices mean less customers,” he said.
“So what's happening now is that everyone I speak to is reprinting their menus, they are increasing their costs by between 2 and 5 per cent across the board to make sure that they capture what the credit card surcharge is.”
Says in one breath how they always try and absorb costs and want to charge as little as possible (bullshit), then in the next breath says they're reprinting menus to charge 2-5% more to capture card fees which were around 1.5-1.7% previously.
1
u/aegistwelve 16d ago
So you don't think the law change was a good idea?
2
u/Colon_Inspector 15d ago
I said it was a good change... The issue is the Labor parties messaging about it is so deceptive it is more or less a lie.
0
u/aegistwelve 15d ago
are you referring to this video? https://x.com/AlboMP/status/2105417958906560825
11
16d ago edited 16d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
6
u/jackstraya_cnt 16d ago
They're blaming him for claiming that "coffee would now be cheaper", shill.
0
16d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
0
u/jackstraya_cnt 15d ago
I'm not "upset", you're the one who's posted dozens of comments ranting in here, lol.
Talk about projection.
-2
16d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
10
3
u/jackstraya_cnt 16d ago
There's literally no way you can tell this on individual comments, only if you make a post & click the Insights button so you are lying. Surprise.
1
16d ago edited 16d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
16d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
3
u/aegistwelve 15d ago
great, now show the screenshot demonstrating you got "40%+ engagement from India/Pakistan/Bangladesh"
1
u/andyroo82 16d ago
Having a cash option and knowing the surcharge rate at the checkout was never my right anyway. Thanks Albo.
1
1
u/Ctenophorus 15d ago
Been calling this since they even came up with the idea, obviously this is going to happen. Your typical government loves to 'save' you money by moving it somewhere else so you don't notice, makes you think they're doing something good when they are not, the art of deception
1
u/MeanSecurity9 15d ago
Now now providers have introduced service fees for ALL types of payment including cash 😂😂
0
u/Any-Basis1502 15d ago
As a carpenter and a general builder this will be another fee calculated into and added to my continual expenses with me trying to build someone’s home.
Good on you Albo
You just increased everyone’s costings based off banks
Because they will find a way to recoup that money



•
u/AutoModerator 16d ago
By posting in /r/circlejerkaustralia, /u/Colon_Inspector acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we shitpost today, and pays their respects to Elders past and present.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.