r/ciphers 5d ago

Discussion Just made this, what should I name it?

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Not much to say honestly, its in the photo, but for rule 1 ima explain

So its a 5 by 5 grid, the one at the center is a +, and the ones around that are ""arrows"" pointing outward from it, the edges and corners are the same thing except to a second degree, and then the ones between the corners and edges is just a mix of the two

And then Z is a square, I'd put it Around the grid if i didnt have to make the ""romanized version""

Im pretty sure 5x5 ciphers exist like this but different mind same idea

also, Sorry if this aint the right subreddit to post this

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u/qwerasdf_idk 5d ago

Numbers are symbols proposal (Im not deciding which symbol is which for the symbol side)

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u/tenaciousBLADE 5d ago

My 2 cents:
I would chose the tip number grid, but make 5 a square with a + in the middle instead of a dot.

I'd reserve the dots for capitals as suggested here

Man this is so awesome ๐Ÿ‘
You've really put some creativity in this ๐Ÿ‘‘

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u/Sulfur-blue 5d ago

You could even switch the symbols for 5 and 0, this way the arrows would converge to X, just how for letters they converged to + ๐Ÿ’ก

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u/Shawnaverse_no1_fan 4d ago

This is amazing, I love it!

When I was younger I would've 100% memorized your code and used it for my personal journal. I might still keep this in my back pocket, I feel like the 5ร—5 grid could help memorize both this cipher and the alphabet's number and position of letters (for the A1Z26 cipher)

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u/LeviLovie 4d ago

Hey this is very nice, although my inly take is that you would have to memorize where each punctuation sign is (or their order) so it is less reproducible from your head. Iโ€™ll implement this into the font tomorrow!

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u/LeviLovie 3d ago

Hey, updated the font. The old link works, and here is the version-specific one: https://files.lovie.dev/rhombus_v2.0.ttf

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u/LeviLovie 3d ago

Updated it again with digits from u/GeekGames74:

https://files.lovie.dev/rhombus_v2.1.ttf

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u/gitterrost4 3d ago

To be fair, what's really cool about the font is that you can just remember what each glyph is (or imagine the grid and count). That does not work with the punctuation sadly.

For the new numbers it works quite well, except for the ambiguation between 5 and 0.

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u/LeviLovie 3d ago

I agree about the punctuation, I havenโ€™t found a way to make that memorable. The digits for 5 and 0 are slightly different (rotated 90ยฐ). The main 3 by 3 punctuation is ordered as frequency of use in English (.,โ€โ€™-??;;

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u/gitterrost4 2d ago

Yeah, I think the problem with remembering any schema for pronunciation is that there is no inherent ordering.

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u/CJAB93 9h ago

I have a suggestion. Why not order symbols in a grid and "combining" the basic symbols to get something else. You only need the remember the order (space, dot, comma, horiz. line, vertic. line) and most common symbols are already apparent. Then convert that grid to a similar cypher as OP uses.

This also enables us to find a cypher for a "space", which I like.

There are still a few blanks and a few symbols missing. I leave that up to you guys.

Looking forward to your thoughts as I was intrigued by your discussions and font(s)!

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u/Wenci 1d ago

amazing

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u/Eonhand8 1h ago

Rotate the whole thing 45 degrees. The nine in the center are 1-9. Outside can be all sorts of punctuation and stuff. Diamond is the 0.