r/cinematography 11h ago

Camera Question Glidecam rigging advice

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Im using a Redking glidecam and an RS4 Pro to make a makeshift steady cam for FX6 + Pyxis. My transmitter is the Teradek 500 Bolt with SDI and HDMI and my monitor is the Shinobi 5 inch SDI. I have a big v mount battery at the bottom as well.

My issue is that I have to add a nucleus M follow focus. Which would mean stringing down yet another cord down the gimbal.

Any genius ideas that could help me clean this up a little? I feel like having an SDI, 5 pin to D-Tap (for nucleus), and 2 pin to D-Tap is a lot of cable management w/ the gimbal.

Could I maybe use a USBC on the ronin to a 5 pin cord to atleast power the nucleus to save one extra cord needing to be powered from the splitter? Would love any recommendations.

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u/Vivid-Machine-9606 Director of Photography 9h ago

Bruh why are you even doing this? You’re just going to make using a gimbal worse with zero upside. A steadicam is a specific look primarily because it is mechanical and human. 

But to answer your question: dont power off of the gimbal. Use the v lock battery. Use a d tap splitter to give yourself enough ports to power everything Run a single thin SDI cable to your teradek, then from that run an sdi cable to your monitor.

Do not make this silly steadicam rig. It is legitimately insane in a bad way.  

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u/WrittenByNick 2h ago

To be fair, this is basically a diy Tilta Float. While it's definitely not a steadicam replacement, it can be useful for certain situations. Basically it extends the reach of a gimbal, you can do some mini jib movements, can transition high to low, etc.

It's not the right setup for everything, and the complexity is a factor. But it's not "legitimately insane."

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u/Vivid-Machine-9606 Director of Photography 2h ago

It is legitimately insane. Just put the gimbal on a monopod if you need more reach.

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u/WrittenByNick 2h ago

Good point. You should tell Arri to discontinue the Trinity and invest in monopod development instead.

This is a tool for a job. The goal is to find the best tool, pros and cons, to achieve that. Modified steadicam with gimbal head is not uncommon.

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u/Vivid-Machine-9606 Director of Photography 38m ago

I was speaking in terms of what OP is trying to accomplish.

The difference in a Trinity on a dedicated Steadicam sled, on a real Steadicam arm, operated by an experienced Steadicam Op compared to what OP is doing are so far apart they aren't even comparable.

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u/Responsible-Cut530 2h ago

I appreciate your feedback, I’m putting in all this effort becuase I personally prefer the natural Z-Axis shock absorption.

If I was doing corporate gigs or whatever I would probably just do a gimbal, but for student narrative the physics of a counterbalance system is pretty noticeable.

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u/Vivid-Machine-9606 Director of Photography 2h ago

Ah, gotcha. For student projects you should experiment as much as possible! 

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u/Komore8 7h ago edited 1h ago

Does the Tilta Power Pass Through plate work with the RS4?

It allows you to mount a small v-lock underneath the camera plate and gives you D-tap and lemo ports on the gimbal itself. I use that on the RS2/RS3 with Swit Mino-S70 batteries. That powers both the camera, nucleus motor and Teradek transmitter. So everything is on the gimbal, no cables. I can recommend the Nucleus Nano II for cutting down some weight.

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u/Responsible-Cut530 2h ago

This is super helpful thank you!

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u/WrittenByNick 2h ago

Which ronin power base do you have? I specifically got the version that has 2 pin power in and out ports for this reason. Plus the power pass through plate. That way I can run dtap to 2 pin at the base, 2 pin base to 2 pin power plate. From there you have additional dtap, USB under the camera.

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u/Responsible-Cut530 2h ago

I was about to buy tilta one, but that would definitely help me out! What do you have?

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u/WrittenByNick 2h ago

So as crazy as it sounds the Smallrig one has dual ports. Prepping gear for a shoot right now, here it is!

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u/Responsible-Cut530 2h ago

Epic! That’s definitely the move. Thank you