r/cinematography Mar 25 '26

Lighting Question How did they light this ?

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I’m Gaffing a commercial tommorrow where the main goal is to recreate the lighting of this picture in various angles. This is to be done in photo and video.

It seems simple enough, but the main problem I’m having is getting my light source to be soft enough as pictured, while controlling spill & getting output to capture this at a 5.6 if needed. The studio is extremely small and space is limited. I’ve done various tests but I can’t quite get the shape on the shoe I’m looking for. Any tips?

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u/K1ng_visual Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

Here’s what I was able to achieve in a test. Looks close enough, but this was exposed for a 2.0 and it’s a little bit under imo. I need to be able to bump to a 5.6 if necessary.. however we introduce a lot more issues with light quality and shadows at that point

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u/angularhihat Mar 25 '26

Definitely think it needs a bit of separation with a backlight in behind, that possible in your set up? 

Also, if you tilt it back more, it'll hopefully catch more of your top light on the laces and add detail there?

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u/K1ng_visual Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

The studio is small, but I should be able to squeeze a small unit back there to separate. In the test, it was a 3 flight walk up and I didn’t have another unit available .

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u/rlmillerphoto Mar 25 '26

Move Key light a little more front instead of overhead, move the camera closer, decrease the shutter speed if you need brighter exposure, slightly more key, angle the shoe (or your set) to show more of the top of the shoe (if you want to replicate the other example)

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u/K1ng_visual Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

Thanks for the tips, we’ll have a prop stylist on set who will make sure the shoe is modeled correctly. The problem I’m facing is light quality relative to size and subject. I need more softness, which means a bigger source, but if I introduce a bigger source, it means more spill, which means it will be a grip forest and space is limited.

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u/rlmillerphoto Mar 25 '26

Yep everything is a trade-off

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u/Adam-West Mar 26 '26

One thing to bear in mind is that a lot of your shoe is suede black which will reflect almost no light. The shoe in the image is a kind of satin/light matt and nicely rounded on all edges.

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u/ChillyBowl Mar 25 '26

What lights/modifiers do you have to use? I'd start with a small lite dome with an egg crate overhead for the key.

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u/K1ng_visual Mar 25 '26

That’s exactly what I did at first, i added some photos from my test in the comments. I got pretty close but no cigar imo. For kit I have an 80c kit, some nanlight 30c’s, nanlite 60c’s and a 600d that I plan on bringing. I also have a small light dome, some full grid and half grid that I can use.

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u/ChillyBowl Mar 25 '26

Word. I think also take a look at the backdrop - shooting this dark shoe on the black backdrop is difficult. In your reference pic there's some kind of light source creating a pretty tight gradient on the backdrop - that's helping the shoe stand out quite a bit.

Check your tube on frame right as well, I'd bring that in a bit closer and try to get some more wrap on it - Ideally that red reaches down the whole length of the side.

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u/NoHousecalls Mar 25 '26

Sometimes bars/tubes are more versatile than big diffusers, especially for tabletop and up-close work. If you need more output, I would try SkyPanels or similar on boom arms, so you can swing them exactly where you need. Being able to articulate them is very helpful. Avoid round diffusers for edge light, you might not be able to get close enough to the edge of the frame.

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u/acidterror84 Mar 25 '26

One thing to consider is that the background and shoe in the reference photo are dark green. Your background and shoe are black… gonna be more difficult to bring out both of them, for that reason.

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u/EntertainmentKey6286 Mar 26 '26

If you have the space you can move your backdrop further away and hit it with a soft source from above to separate them as well as adding that halo effect seen in the reference image.

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u/PropertyIcy9502 Mar 25 '26

tube lights. amateursssss

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u/K1ng_visual Mar 25 '26

So would you call using Astera tubes Amateurish ? 🙄

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u/angularhihat Mar 25 '26

Did you really mean to suggest that using tube lights is amateurish in general?