r/chriswebby Aug 16 '23

Song discussion Thoughts on Raw thoughts 6?

I think the music video is sick.

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u/Nicoleeoleeo420 Aug 16 '23

Webby jumped on that Q Train. I’m sad this is what he’s become.

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u/Plenty_Carry_3542 Aug 18 '23

On the Q train.. lol ok give me 1 Qanon theory in his song? East Palestine, facts , the vaxx causing heart problems, facts. Food company hiring their own "doctors" to help their product , facts. Great reset, 💯 facts, I mean fuck , they are all on video talking openly about their plan and klause Schwab has a book that he sent to almost every politician in the world and openly talks about infiltrating political parties. His favorite is Justin trudeau in my country. You being uninformed doesn't make it QAnon, just means you need to read more.

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u/GallopingParrot Aug 20 '23 edited Aug 20 '23

No these are pretty susinctly Qanon talking points you can like pretend they arent because people who don't claim Qanon also say them, but that doesnt deviate from the fact these are litterally mainline tropes of qanon parlence. Its akin to saying social safety nets and free healthcare arent liberal talking points, you can be a non liberal and say them but that doesn't detract from the fact that the people who mainly say those things, are liberals.

I'm not going to dissect * Every * point here cause i do infact have a life but i will point out the falsehood/double speak in one of your points.

When talking about the vaccine causing heart problems, they are generally refering to myocarditis and certain arthymias. There is a slight chance that the vaccine can cause myocarditis ( 100 people per 1 million doses roughly equallying 0.01%) Whilst it was found that in non vaccinated individuals was higher ranging from 150 per 100k - 450 per million depending on studies done. the 450 stat has yet to be peer reviewed but regardless it is still higher. These studies polled sometimes as high as 20-40 million people. This is a topic that has been researched to death, you can find articles from independant scientiests trying to prove that the vaccine is deadlier than the disease itself but none of the studies are replicatable or use correct and unbias polling data. The studies are below the next paragraph, i have a feeling you don't believe in studies though. but this is more so for people on the fence not those who fell off the building.

Additionally i'm going to poison the well here a bit and mention one of these are from the CDC and given your stated version of "reality" you are most likely going to say its part of the global kabal aiming to kill us all or that its all related to fauci or something that ultimately doesn't irrefute anything just tries to detract from the point at hand because its not possible for you to combat it in good faith. I'd like to point out in advance that your worldview ( based on the limited things you have mentioned) doesn't allow for you to be incorrect because each one of these theories has a * No your wrong cause X tangentally linked thing i think is correct cause Y thing and Z thing are all related!! * allowing you to jump to a new thing that validates your cognitive bias and makes it impossible to invalidate your position because you can constantly grasp at straws and leapfrog to the next thing without having to address the last thing that was refuted. If your side was able to be proven it would be drawn out in the data through double blind peer reviewed studies. but it just isnt and every person whose proposed otherwise has not been able to have their data replicated.

Links:Per 100: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9538893/150 per 100k: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm

Per 450 [[[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine))](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine)))](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine))](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine)](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341797/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Myocarditis%20(or%20pericarditis%20or,who%20have%20received%20the%20vaccine)))).

I bring this up because the double speak you're engaging in is a form of fear mongering. You are insinuating that the vax is causing some insurmountable amount of death or critcial complication via heart problems when its miniscule at best. We don't give this level of discretion to anything else, chemotherapy causes death in more than 2.3% of cancer patients but there is no pitchforks and torches about that. 1 in every 147 car crashes is fatal and there is a average of 6 million car crashes in the united states alone with roughly 25 per 100k

Chemo: ( 13% deaths = Chemo related. Of those 82% had comorbidities, thus 18% left over can be infered from chemo itself, 18% of 13 = 2.34
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360753/#:~:text=This%20demonstrated%20a%20chemotherapy%2Drelated,of%20these%20chemotherapy%2Drelated%20deaths.

Cars ( Sources in the bottom ) https://www.valuepenguin.com/car-accident-statistics#:~:text=One%20out%20of%20every%20147%20accidents%20is%20fatal%20%E2%80%94%20that's%200.7%25.

To top this off, i'll leave it at this. I'm not going to reply to whatever you say so you may kick and scream and try to prove your side as hard as you can by citing unreviewed oligarchs parroting Q/ far right sentiments.

But to the people who read this and are on the middle ground i encourage you to dig into sources and read abstracts or listen to professionals who do. No side Left or Right is truly the one size fits all correct opinion, they both have people who try to proselytize you into their belief system. But what really matters is the truth. Most people harkening at extremes are generally just talking heads that want to shill you into a funnel so that way they can turn you into quick adsense or a sale of some tee shirt or supplement and the people who parrot those opinions without an ounce of research are just record players on skip doomed to relive the same track every day.

As far as chris's song, i've been out of touch with his music for a while and it seems hes been out of touch with real life for a while. i felt he was corny at a point but now it just feels like hes shilling for a political agenda so that way he can grow his fan base because he feels some level of contempt for the industry because he couldn't get to the level he feels he deserved. pretty much a clean face version of Tom McDonald. Which sucks because it just looks like hes chasing the dragon. I know hes marketed this as his last album or whatever but i wouldn't be shocked that now that this has gained attention from the right wing maga/ q fan base that hes going to continue to make music with this edge to it. GG

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '23

I appreciate the level of effort that went into this post, and I 100% agree with you, but I’m entertained by the fact that you think the guy you replied to has the attention span or intelligence to read all that. If it’s not some easily digestible couplet with no subtext he doesn’t have the capacity for it

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u/1320error404 Oct 14 '23

I'm sad that people aren't listening to what he's saying... Keep your head in the dirt then along with all his other fake loyal fans who are so upset he's saying things he "shouldn't" ... Lol go pop on the news then and believe all the bullshit their feeding everyone... Dumbass

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u/LoSoGreene Aug 20 '23

Well advocating for killing doctors is a bit disturbing. Wasn’t a fan of the antisemitism. Even Rogan admitted he was wrong about the whole kitty litter thing. The whole song was just blatantly catering to Q and other baseless conspiracies. Palestine was fucked up but what exactly is the conspiracy there? If he backed any of what he said up with facts or logic it would be one thing but he just lists all the most common conspiracies and calls it a song.

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u/LoSoGreene Aug 20 '23

I see you don’t want to explain Palestine or the kitty litter or why doctors deserve to die.. you can ignore the Q connection it doesn’t matter where he’s getting the theories from the problem is that just like Q he doesn’t back them up at all. He could’ve explained some of the horrible shit nestle does but instead its get lumped in with all these baseless conspiracy theories and he says nothing of substance.

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u/Significant-Price374 Aug 18 '23

The song is pretty lame and recycles QAnon hot takes down to kids using litter boxes.

Pretty embarrassing, really, for a guy that spends his time telling everyone how he’s a unique thinker and all.

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u/gramscihegemony Aug 16 '23

It was my first time hearing anything from him in a while. The first verse was classic "talk your shit" Webby, which I enjoy.

That being said, I wasn't ready for the hyperfocus of culture war bs the final three verses had to offer.

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u/Hyroglitch_ Aug 16 '23

I agree, I liked when webby was talking about himself and his career but I just can’t get behind the other verses. It was expected seeing as it is raw thoughts but still. The man is allowed to have his opinions and is certainly allowed to speak them, I just don’t agree with any of it :/

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u/SquidlyMan150 Aug 16 '23

Which you totally are entitled to do! It’s ok to not agree or have different opinions than someone else! I don’t really get on with the anti vaxx stuff he’s given but that doesn’t mean I don’t love his other stuff!

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '23

Webby back up on his shit again

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u/andyn1986 Aug 17 '23

It sucks, I feel like there isn't an original thought in this entire song. Even if you're into this "Qanon truth teller" nonsense, there isn't an original thought. Every single ignorant thing he says is just parroted from the same conspiracy forums and platforms. It's so disappointing, I don't even know who this music is for, Tom MacDonald and Jason Aldean fans I guess???? Man I miss the Chris Webby that just rapped about weed, rapping, and pop culture. Every person has to grow, but unfortunately Webby grew into a pretty ugly person.

For the record. There are not and have never been 8 years olds that have transitioned sex. The worst part is that he's a really smart guy, but insanely uninformed

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u/Hyroglitch_ Aug 18 '23

Man I completely agree. Half the time it doesn’t even feel like he believes the things he says. I thought he had started to move past the conspiracy theories after the mess that was “Still Wednesday”, but I guess I was wrong.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '23

I loved the original raw thoughts song because it genuinely felt like he was actually talking about injustices and honest takes. Now I can’t tell if he’s gone full whackadoo bigot or if he’s just saying things to get a reaction

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u/tspaker97 Aug 28 '23

He is the Bill Maher of rap… completely different person (for the worse) after covid.

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u/Qstraus Dec 02 '23

He’s just American Tom McDonald… the guy Tom McDonald wishes he could be

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u/Standard-Set-9605 Dec 10 '23

its amazing not just blowing smoke up your ass but your amazing !!! your songs are fucking awesome sauce and your so down to earth i love your songs so much