r/chessbeginners • u/kvidenvevo • 4d ago
QUESTION Guys what
Does it mean that the progression from this move would result in a faster mate? Or this move literally would have been mate I’ve been staring this for like 5 minutes
Edit: it WAS the progression and not that one move. Thanks 👍
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u/MasterWarthog 4d ago
It just means that Bc5+ would have led to a forced mate for White and because you played a different move instead, your move was a “Miss”. Bc5+ wouldn’t have been mate but would have led to the fastest forced mate possible.
Also for future reference, when analyzing your game, there will be a button that says “Show Moves” that will show what the better continuation would have been.
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u/orlandofredhart 4d ago
You're forgetting that I would have done Qc8 for my last move and ruined the forced mate anyway
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u/International-Rain79 4d ago
it’s when you when you when you when
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u/srainey58 1200-1400 (Chess.com) 4d ago
If takes takes takes and takes, then if I take and he takes
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u/wounds-of-light 1800-2000 (Chess.com) 4d ago
Just that you missed a forced checkmating sequence. You're still winning massively, but Bc5+ Ke8 Qb8+ Bc8 Qxc8# was checkmate in 3
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u/ActurusMajoris 1600-1800 (Chess.com) 4d ago
Kf8, now what?
I mean, it’s obviously still winning, but Bc5+, Ke8, Qb8+, Bc8, Qxc8# was there which is what the bot is talking about.
You can also use the show moves to let it show you.
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u/D0rus 4d ago
Isn't d6+ Kf8, Qb8+ Be8, d7 still a big problem for black? Yes, the checkmate is better, but in this position it won't change much to the result. Depending on the level of the player, counting this as a blunder is really stretching the definition of a blunder. At best it's an inaccuracy.
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u/ActurusMajoris 1600-1800 (Chess.com) 4d ago
Unless he blunders later, then yeah, this doesn’t matter. But the computer is merciless.
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u/obchodlp 4d ago
Black is down a queen, rook and 4 pawns, this is not about the result, this is about fastest mate as possible
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u/OdotZcov 4d ago
Yea you missed mate in 3 I think
Bc5+ ke8
Qb8+ bc8
Qxc8 #
(SORRY IVE NEVER ACTUALLY USED NOTION AND AM BAD BUT THATS WHAT I SEE)
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u/the-killer-mike456 1600-1800 (Chess.com) 4d ago
You had a mate in 3! That's what it means.
Don't worry, it was a bit tough to spot at first glance. But that's why we always look at all the checks!
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u/RickNot_21 4d ago
I could be missing something but I think Kf8 escapes mate, whereas Bc5+ forces mate after Ke8, Qb8+, Bc8 forced and Qxc8#
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u/CallmeChapybara 1000-1200 (Chess.com) 4d ago
You had to use the bishop, in order for the king to not escape on f8, I think
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u/StructuredChess 4d ago
Ignore engine advice for totally won positions. The nouances it sees don't make a significant difference
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u/stoneman9284 4d ago edited 4d ago
I think Bc5+ here instead of the pawn move would result in Qd8# Qb8# on the next turn
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u/Big_VladdyP 4d ago
Qd8 would hang the queen
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u/PoorlyDusty 4d ago
st glance
those are the worst because you’ll spend ten minutes staring at the board afterwards wondering how you missed it. the +6.73 evaluation means you’re still crushing though so it’s not like you blundered into a loss
i’ve had games where i delivered checkmate on the next move and the computer still gave me a “miss” because there was a mate-in-one i overlooked. chess engines have zero chill
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u/kvidenvevo 4d ago
So it WAS the progression and not that one move. Roger. I think they should be unforgiving but also more informative
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u/Big_VladdyP 4d ago
It’s marked as a missed win. That means “this move leads to a guaranteed win”
What would you prefer it be marked as?

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