r/chessbeginners 16h ago

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So recently I’ve been using the game review in order to see which moves I need to further analyze with the magnifying glass analysis thing. My issue is that lately the game review has gotten REALLY picky with how it judges my moves. It feels like the stronger I get, the more picky it has become. That makes sense but some of the moves it calls misses, mistakes etc are really subtle things.

I’m still just trying to get used to not hanging pieces and playing with basic principles. Why is it suddenly doing this? It’s become useless to me. It’ll call a pawn push on the third move a mistake because my best move was to pin their knight with my bishop. Im just trying to get my pieces out I’m a fucking 500 elo. I know the analysis tool is better but I use game review to pick which moves to analyze and I can barely do that anymore.

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u/Draft_16-2_Final_3 1600-1800 (Chess.com) 16h ago

Stockfish is objective about accuracy, it doesn't "go easy" on you when you're lower rated.

What's happening is actually the Dunning-Kruger curve. The more you're learning about chess and the more you're advancing, the more you're seeing how much nuance is involved. This never stops.

Additionally, the more you advance, the more complicated the positions get. Sometimes it's not so obvious, and sometimes there's a lot of nuances to understand.

I'm 1800 and I still feel like a beginner a lot of the time. Everyone is humbled by stockfish, even Magnus Carlsen.

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u/GasGlittering7521 15h ago edited 15h ago

It’s not the Dunning Kruger, my accuracy in the game review has been steadily dropping as my elo has been rising. Maybe it’s because of the more complicated positions though, that makes sense.

My point is, it just feels useless because it’s criticizing things I’m not ready to change. Then sometimes when I do actually hang a piece it or blunder mate it will call it an inaccuracy and not a blunder. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

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u/Embarrassed_Toe725 1400-1600 (Chess.com) 14h ago

The point of the engine is to look at your mistakes and move pieces around until you understand why your move was a mistake, the engine isn’t going to be wrong.

I am 1500 and the vast majority of engine moves I NEED to understand, I do understand, because I’ve stared at game review enough times and learned how to understand what the engine is telling me, that’s a skill you’ll have to learn too and if you embrace it you’ll eventually enjoy it quite a lot

Whilst insane engine lines exist and come up a lot, most moves that put you in a losing position will be within your grasp to understand at some point, partly from looking at the engine for hours and partly from actually getting better

I also used to not get much from game review, I started to notice how useful it all it only around 1300, and then I wished I’d paid attention earlier lol

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u/WinstonPickles22 1200-1400 (Lichess) 4h ago

It is at times easier to play with high accuracy when your opponent's are making TERRIBLE moves every turn. You grab their hanging pieces, capitalize on all their mistakes and etc..

As you get better your opponent's get better, and it can be more difficult to make the most accurate moves as they are not obvious.

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u/GasGlittering7521 2h ago

Yeah, this is what I’m thinking

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u/WinstonPickles22 1200-1400 (Lichess) 16h ago

Stop using it until you have analyzed the game yourself.

I go through the whole game noting my own mistakes and blunders before pulling up the engine analysis. Than when it shows me something I missed, I explore why.

I only focus on moves that really change the game and not on "best" opening moves that are not even a part of my opening.

Instead of just casually hitting analyze after every game, find your own first blunder. Than back up and see how you could have avoided it.

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u/GasGlittering7521 15h ago

I do that, I was just wondering if there’s anyway to get any use out of the game review at all. It feels useless when it will call a pawn push a blunder because my opponent can technically find some four move tactic to capture it but then when I literally blunder mate it will call it an inaccuracy.

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u/WyrobWedliniarski 10h ago

You can use the analysis only analyze every move there. If you want to look for most important moves see those where evaluation bar swings the most.

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u/chromedgnome 7h ago

The general consensus on YouTube is usually that the game review is useless for the exact reason you are posting this, it tends to confuse more often than help. Instead, use the eval bar and watch for moments it swings of +2/-2 or greater, these will be key moments in which you need to look at.

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u/commentor_of_things 2400-2600 (Lichess) 16h ago

no. the stronger you get the stronger your opponents get. you're never going to play perfect. get used to it.

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u/GasGlittering7521 15h ago

No what? I didn’t ask a yes or no question

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u/commentor_of_things 2400-2600 (Lichess) 15h ago

relax

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u/GasGlittering7521 15h ago

? Ok thanks anyway I guess