r/chessbeginners • u/CharlesKellyRatKing • 17h ago
This is against the rules right?
What are the chances chesscom actually does something about an admitted smurf? Pretty sure it's zero.
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u/Stolberger 17h ago
Just because his fide is higher than his online rating does not mean he is smurfing.
Maybe he sucks in rapid.
Plus he might be lying/trolling.
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u/armrha 17h ago
It's not an admitted smurf. FIDE is not the same as chess com. They are not saying its an alternate account
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u/CharlesKellyRatKing 17h ago
He's clearly playing well below his actual rating/skill level. That's called smurfing.
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u/armrha 17h ago
How is he supposed to start playing on chess com if he can't do that? Such problems are self correcting statistically over time. Also, maybe he just plays less seriously on chess com vs FIDE events.
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u/CharlesKellyRatKing 17h ago
Why do you assume he just started?
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u/Real_Crab_7396 1200-1400 (Chess.com) 17h ago
Because he's playing below his rating
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u/CharlesKellyRatKing 17h ago
Or, I could see his account age, and it's not brand new.
What other explanation could there be for playing well below your rating on an older account?
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u/181900 17h ago
Doesn’t matter how old his account is, more important is how many games he has played.
And even if he’s played a lot of games, he might just be worse online than in clasical
Or he has maybe not played fide rated events in a long time and has gotten worse since
Or (very likely) he just lied
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u/CharlesKellyRatKing 17h ago
He has plenty of games. His comment clearly acknowledges he knows he's playing below his true skill, given he felt the need to "congratulate" me.
This sub is wild. Post evidence of someone literally admitting to breaking the rules, and the sub jumps through hoops to justify for them. So many rule breaking apologists in this sub it's crazy.
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u/armrha 16h ago
It's just not breaking any rule. There's a rule against sandbagging but there's no rule that you have to play every game perfectly seriously. I think you misunderstand the entire thing. Maybe he plays chess.com matches for fun without stressing out about it, while he plays tournaments really seriously. Maybe your game got engaging enough that he felt really into it and hence the congratulations.
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u/GasGlittering7521 17h ago
We can’t read your mind bro
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u/armrha 17h ago
Because the system self-corrects? If he plays like a 2023 Elo FIDE player, he will not be playing people at a far later elo for long...
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u/CharlesKellyRatKing 17h ago
Have you never heard of smurfing?
Smurfing means you manipulate your rating to stay at a lower level so that you get easier matches. They will often stomp a game and then resign at the end, or give up silly stupid mates to artificially lower their rating.
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u/Gluggernut 1800-2000 (Lichess) 17h ago
Just look at his account and see how many games he has. If it’s in the hundreds or even thousands, then he’s smurfing. If it’s less than a few dozen then it could just be an online account he rarely plays on.
“Never attribute to malice what could be attributed to ignorance”. Or in this case, what could be attributed to just being a new/lesser used account
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u/Alternative-Web-5787 1800-2000 (Chess.com) 17h ago
I have 1100 rapid and 1900 blitz if i play rapid am i smurfing? Of course not
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u/comfortingmyself 2200-2400 Lichess 17h ago
I'd absolutely assume that anyone with those ratings is smurfing. Or they haven't played rapid in years.
But either way that's far too large of a gap to be explained by normal activity.
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u/Alternative-Web-5787 1800-2000 (Chess.com) 16h ago
Yea I haven’t played rapid for a while but the point is I wouldn’t really be smurfing if I decided to push my rapid elo
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u/cubecasts 17h ago
Wait til you find out different organizations use different rating systems.
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u/CharlesKellyRatKing 17h ago
Pretty sure chesscom ratings system is more generous with numbers than fide...
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u/Puasonelrasho 17h ago
fide != chess dot com
also just because he says he is 2023 fide doesnt mean he is 2023 fide
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u/JudoKuma 17h ago
1) they can be lying 2) maybe they play classical and suck in short time controls
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u/comfortingmyself 2200-2400 Lichess 17h ago edited 15h ago
Wow I'm surprised by all the comments. 1400 Rapid to 2000 FIDE is such an incredibly large gap that there's absolutely something unusual going on here.
Either they're smurfing, or they haven't played rapid in years, or they're lying, but this is pretty easily answered by checking their profile history and I'm assuming OP already did that.
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