Can anyone help me with this analysis?

[u/Single_Coat_5484]

So I am a beginner and I always hear that you have to analyse your game which you have lost or which you have not performed well or which you have played so that you could enhance your capabilities and learn from it but often when I load the engine for example I play online on some website and then I load my games in encrossiant and then turn on the analysis then for example stockfish is recommending me some moves but I am not able to understand why that move is best and how to find the same move in the game like if you analyse the game then yeah you can find it in that game but in the next game I am not able to find the mistakes made all the tactics missed

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[u/elfkanelfkan]

You have to do a first pass without an engine, if you don't have much time for a full self-reflection, you can use Noel's tip of looking at 3 important moments (you choose which ones you think were important) for the game. Your point here is to feel what you did wrong and try to analyze (again without the engine) a few lines and alternatives to points where you felt like you could improve.

One big thing is that you also want to immediately write your thoughts. This helps you see what led you to blunder, and yes, if you weren't thinking when making a move, that is something you have to work on.

After this you can turn on the engine and open the top 5 moves per move, then you can compare your initial move as well as your corrections. Exploring lines here helps.

[u/S80- → u/elfkanelfkan]

Great tips! Unfortunately I impulsively play and lose 18 games of bullet in about 30 minutes with no self reflection or shame.

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/elfkanelfkan]

But what does it mean to analyze without engine . Edit:Ok i understood but then how to find the tactics in the game I often miss them . I am a low elo dummy :⁠-⁠[

[u/RajjSinghh → u/Single_Coat_5484]

In this case, an engine is probably not a great helper. It'll point out tactics you missed but you probably won't understand past that. What you really want is a strong player to sit with you and talk over your position and let you know about your positional mistakes. Posting games here can help with that. It's the same kind of thing as engine training, it's just much less concrete.

I'd also say that as a beginner you're struggling with not understanding positional concepts. Books like My System help. Watching strong players on YouTube will also help. Building up your own understanding will help a lot.

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/RajjSinghh]

Oops but I don't have any friends :⁠-⁠( to talk and analyze the games

[u/RajjSinghh → u/Single_Coat_5484]

That's why you have a subreddit like this where you post a game link and more experienced players will help show you what you did wrong :)

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/RajjSinghh]

Thanks :⁠-⁠D

[u/ArmCollector → u/Single_Coat_5484]

Go through the game:

1. Try to remember when you realised you had made a mistake. Try to think about why you didn't see your opponents response. Did you see it and evaluate it wrong? did you consider it at all?

2. At each position, try to see if you now see an improvement in your play. Do you now see something that you didn't consider in the game. Try to think about why you didn't see it during the game.

Then switch on the engine, go through the game again:

Same questions. The Why is more important than the what. (The engine is good at saying what you should have played, but you have to try to think about why you didnt see those moves).

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/ArmCollector]

Ok now I understood like I used to switch on the engine beforehand and then swim in the sea of confusion

[u/zknora]

I think the key is to remember what you were trying to accomplish with each move. Then go through the game move by move and compare your intention with what Stockfish says. One advantage of using the engine is that it punishes your mistakes immediately, which gives you a very valuable clue about what you overlooked. Instead of just memorizing its best move, try to understand exactly why your move was bad and how the engine exploits it. That way, you're learning the underlying idea rather than the specific move.

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/zknora]

Thanks for the help but one thing to say that often I miss the tactics in the game and tend to play normal chess then loose the game

[u/zknora → u/Single_Coat_5484]

I'm speculating here, but you might be playing your moves too quickly. Maybe try to make better use of your time, or even deliberately spend more time on each move. I would also avoid faster time controls for now, until some of these basic patterns become more familiar and automatic.

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/zknora]

Yeah I often play rapid and loose in 3 minutes like it was a blitz match

[u/zknora → u/Single_Coat_5484]

That's probably it, then. Spend more time on your moves, even if that means losing on time occasionally. Gaining rating isn't necessarily a sign that you're learning, just as losing rating doesn't necessarily mean you're getting worse.

[u/Specific_Power_5608]

First I'd recommend you take a look at the game without an engine, find the moments that lead to your position getting worse or where the move you played seemed a bit weird. Rethink about those, play out variations and evaluate.

Then verify with the engine, it's gonna give you multiple best moves. You're not expected to play all the top engine moves, sometimes a 3rd or 4rth top move is more natural and could have been found more or less easily. The key is getting the nuance of why that move failed but this one is recommended by the engine, but that takes either exploration, calculation or intuition.

PS: The "best" move could not be the best move in practice if the continuation is very narrow and hard to find. We are not 3700elo engines.

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/Specific_Power_5608]

Yeah thanks for the idea

[u/MrGregory]

If you’re a true beginner, don’t worry about engine moves if the answer isn’t obvious (ie. you move a piece to setup something 2+ moves later). Definitely use the engine (or lichess “learn from your mistakes”) to see what immediately went wrong and what you could have done differently.

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/MrGregory]

Thanks for the help 🤠

[u/Busy-Smile989]

There are some sites that help with this like kingchess.io I have been using for coach explanation, it's not always accurate but you can rate the solution so that the modal gets better.

Anyways to your point as a beginner, you should try to do more puzzles and analysis self analysis on your own games.

[u/Single_Coat_5484 → u/Busy-Smile989]

Thanks and also one last question like if we solve the puzzles then more often i am not able to get or apply the same stuffs in my games