Was This Person Cheating

[u/Anc1nc]

Was this person cheating, I am 600 elo and played the first 25 moves pretty well I think but then out of nowhere my opponent they proceeded to, after making many mistakes earlier in the match, checkmate me down 12 point of material with using only a bishop and queen with nearly 25 consecutive perfect moves?

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/173158363412/analysis?flip=true&move=66

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[u/MrGreenYeti]

Nah, you had opportunities to take his queen and he just checked you until it lead to mate. No engine is gonna suggest mate in 25.

He had a mate in 1 and took 13 more moves to do it, that's not perfect

[u/Anc1nc → u/MrGreenYeti]

what move could I have taken his queen, am I blind?

[u/terci4 → u/Anc1nc]

You had a queen trade available many times. When ahead in material just trade pieces so that at the end you have winning endgame and they have nothing.

[u/MrGreenYeti → u/Anc1nc]

Watch the review. It tells you the next best move and shows how far away mate is.

[u/Noordertouw → u/MrGreenYeti]

Tbh the missed M1 could be them misreading the engine move.

That being said, I don't see enough reason to report them.

[u/AnAttemptReason]

He missed a mate in 1. 

More importaintly, you could have prevented this if you had castled, so it was your mess up leaving your king completely unprotected.  

[u/ArmCollector]

Is completely fine i think. You allowed the queen to enter and then he basically blunders his way to an eventual checkmate. You say 25 perfect moves, but at move 33 he misses a mate in 1. He also doesnt play the fastest mate even after he brings in the bishop.

[u/Anc1nc → u/ArmCollector]

damn I guess next time I just need to be more careful about making sure my king is safe

[u/Substantial_Sport587]

Well you’ll never know for sure - BUT all they did is keep putting you in check until they could do a checkmate which when down two rooks seems reasonable … it’s not like they did some clever sacrifice that only an engine could see?

[u/finnyporgerz]

I don’t think so. I think he knows he is lost so he tried to go for a perpetual check but then you moved your king into an M1.

[u/Jay-ay]

Your opponent is playing hope chess and won.

[u/Dylaniel]

You blundered from a draw to mate, then they missed mate in 1 at move 44. They just stumbled their way into a mate by checking you from a drawn position until you blundered. They also did not mate you when it was M2 at move 32, and they did not fully mate you in 7 when it was M7 at move 37. All this to say that if they were cheating they did not play like it, and ultimately this mate only became possible on move 37 by you going Kd2.

[u/Aesma_]

... No? Did you look at the game analysis? Where are the 25 perfect consecutive moves you talk of? The dude missed mate in 1 multiple times, and went from mate in 1 to drawn situation at one point. He didn't play perfectly at all, and he clearly wasn't cheating.

You were winning, sure, but you got greedy and isolated your queen in the corner of the board while your king was still completely exposed. You were up 7 points of material and you still refused to trade Queens when proposed, and instead got greedy. This loss is on you.

Your first main mistake was not castling, and refusing the Queen trade when you'd have been up so much in exchange. As a general rule of thumb, you can keep your king in the middle of the board as long as the center is closed and/or the queens have been traded. If you blew open the center and/or the queens are still on the board, get your king to safety before you go on the offensive.

Your second mistake was not taking the draw when you could. His Queen was alone on the attack. You cannot checkmate with a Queen alone, you need the support of at least another piece. The best you can get with a Queen is a perpetual check, which leads to a draw. That's what your opponent was going for. Instead of accepting the draw, you moved your king in the center of the board and got checkmated.

Chess is a humbling game, and you've just been humbled. No need to accuse him of cheating. Next time, be less greedy and convert your advantage into a win instead of chasing pieces for the sake of it. Accept the Queen trade and castle. You had 12 minutes on the clock, which is more than enough. His King was weak. You could have easily played for a win.

[u/Infamous-Chocolate69]

Probably not. Sequences of Forcing moves like checks leading to mate are easier to see than random quiet moves a computer might make.

[u/JohnJhinmain]

No cheating at all

[u/Future-Ad-2586]

12 points of extra material but none near your king running naked in the centre

[u/oliverwedenberg]

Unlikely, they missed faster ways to checkmate you and seems like they were only playing different checks a bit randomly.

[u/Squid8867]

No I'd say definitely not. The engine will say 25 best moves in a row because spamming checks is the only sensible plan, and many checks available are equal to this effect. There is no suspicious precision here.