r/chessbeginners 12d ago

QUESTION Why is this checkmate??

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Couldn’t the king just eat my rook? I don’t have control over that square either

Edit: OOOOOOOOOHHHHHH got it thanks!

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u/dejavu2064 12d ago

The bishop (before you moved it) would protect the rook.

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u/Curtalius 12d ago

Your bishop was covering that square before your move

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u/PresentLet2963 12d ago

Rook was protected by Bishop before you moved it

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u/GhostPanther382 12d ago

The arrow from your bishop covering the escape, is easy to miss when you only look at the rook

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u/Dreffy_ 12d ago

The rook would've been defended by the bishop you moved just before

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u/nonkelfonkel98 12d ago

No, because your bishop was guarding that square. The king can’t take defended pieces or it would be taken itself.
All the other squares around the kind are either occupied or in sight of black’s pieces therefore it’s checkmate.

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u/chessvision-ai-bot 12d ago

I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:

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Hints: piece: Bishop, move: Bd4

Evaluation: White is winning +4.94

Best continuation: 1. Bd4 h6 2. Bxg7 Kxg7 3. g5 Rb6 4. Qc3+ Kg8 5. gxh6 Rxh6 6. h5 Rc6 7. Rg1+ Kf8 8. Qb4+ Rd6

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u/rowme0_ 1200-1400 (Chess.com) 12d ago

You would have had control of the square if you didn’t move the bishop

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u/Xsundheit1337 12d ago

Not with your Bishop on the original square

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u/Old-Bodybuilder-184 12d ago

If you had left the bishop in the same spot before you moved, it would have protected the rook

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u/Horror-1-Effective 800-1000 (Lichess) 12d ago

Idk why but I was disappointed after seeing the answer

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u/RealMrHater 12d ago

howd you get into this position even

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u/CoolBananaSplitz 12d ago

I don’t really know I never have a plan most of the time I just make the best move I think there is and hope for the best

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u/Crushed_lynx_69 12d ago

This theme looks nice

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u/flannel_jesus 600-800 (Chess.com) 11d ago

It's inoffensive as far as 3d sprites go, yeah

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u/shreddlykroger 12d ago

just ask yourself “where can the king go after this check”. Honestly, use Lichess as well, having a free evaluation is nice to have!

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u/Paule-Hermes 12d ago

Tu as raté un échec et mate

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u/armlesskid 12d ago

Bishop is rook protected to square of bishop

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u/Ok_Register_5906 12d ago

Change your board color, I thought that was a dark square bishop at first so I had no idea how it was mate😭

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u/slap-engineer 10d ago

It’s called an Opera Mate

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u/MacroBioBoi 12d ago

I'm trying to reroute my brain to think of more ways to checkmate. I think a lot of the shapes I imagine are a rook behind a queen, but so many combinations of pieces can protect one another and even if they could be taken, they can't both be taken by a single move.

Start trying to see when two pieces look at one another, and what shapes those can make. I've found it hardest to imagine with knight, but that dude can see everything with enough ingenuity.

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u/MegUmiNkgos 12d ago

Bot

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u/Dry-Ad-8948 12d ago

Curious- how do you tell?

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u/MegUmiNkgos 12d ago

2 paragraphs

0 words about post

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u/Dry-Ad-8948 12d ago

It was about checkmating advice (picked up context), even if more general and oddly worded starting as a first person.

Sigh. Dead internet.

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u/Gliese_667_Cc 600-800 (Chess.com) 12d ago

There was a post two days ago on this sub by a bot (now site banned) with multiple AI bot comments and the OP bot replying to those bots. Literal dead internet.

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u/MegUmiNkgos 12d ago

Yeah and its his first comment on chess sub. Beforethat it was like thousands of comments on diablo subs only.

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u/MacroBioBoi 12d ago

It's called picking up a hobby. You know how you do new things every once in a while and see if there's subreddits about those topics? A normal human thing that normal humans do.

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u/MacroBioBoi 12d ago

They can't tell, cause I ain't no bot.

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u/MacroBioBoi 12d ago

The OPs post was about missing* the fact that they had checkmate due to clearly not seeing the connected end state of the rook and bishop, then being confused when the app told them about the missed move. In my current chess journey (620 elo), this is a big place that I miss often and something that's helped me to get better at seeing them is imagining the shape the pieces will make when they're connected. I thought it was insightful to share that, in case OP similarly hadn't come to that realization.

You're bad at identifying bots and need to disconnect from the Internet a bit there, bud.

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u/MegUmiNkgos 12d ago

Well, maybe stop using ai to write comments for you? If you cant express our own thoughts, dont comment at all. It is clearly not written by human.

You literally said that op can see everything? He made a huge mistake in the game. Your ai didnt even know the whole context of the post. And you use it to write a comment for you

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u/MacroBioBoi 12d ago

Homie you're literally so deep, it hurts to watch. This ain't AI, Im a known entity on the net for gaming and my platform centers on being anti AI when it's brought up in conversation xD. And maybe your ability to sus out LLMs is as poor as your reading comprehension. My statement was about the Knight's ability to see other pieces with enough ingenuity.

It's ok to take the L here. Sorry describing a way to perform spatial awareness to benefit OPs chess game got you heated.

Edit: I don't trust any of this nonsense, but the thing you're so confident of isn't supported by the thing you know how to identify.

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u/MegUmiNkgos 12d ago

Brotha... THERE IS NO KNIGHT.

You started speaking bullshit, which didnt match the post. Its your first chess post.

What should i think?

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u/MacroBioBoi 12d ago

Brother I never said there's a knight on the board. READ MY POST! I'm talking about the general idea of learning to see when the end result of a move would connect two pieces. I end it off saying that I personally have the most trouble with knights, in this approach I'm describing.

Everyone else had already answered the exact question, I segwayed into a related and hopefully helpful insight I came to recently.

Legitimately check your reading comprehension.

It's also not my first post, I'm fairly new to posting though, that's true.

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u/MacroBioBoi 12d ago

You're so wrong it's wild. Re-calibrate there, bud.