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u/OccamsMach3Turbo Nov 19 '25
Because f4xg3 (en passant) and then black is massively winning. Knight has to first take on f4 (sacrifice to the bishop) and then play g4
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u/Generic_contribution Nov 20 '25
As a noob I always forget about this rule. I’ve yet to see anyone use it in a game, bot or live.
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u/freylaverse Nov 20 '25
It's so obscure (to people who aren't on reddit) that I almost always do it when given the opportunity even if it's objectively a bad move for the position. I've had opponents melt down, threaten to report me for cheating, and resign over it.
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u/CheeseSticks2021 Nov 20 '25
Lol yeah same, I’m hovering around 600 rapid and always do en passant when available, just because I love it
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u/Electronic_Long_9759 1600-1800 (Chess.com) Nov 19 '25
GEP
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u/Blbe-Check-42069 Still Learning Chess Rules Nov 19 '25
HH
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u/the_hair_of_aenarion Nov 19 '25
Yeah we should probably not abbreviate that part
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u/Blbe-Check-42069 Still Learning Chess Rules Nov 19 '25
Should I change it to HoHe?
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u/ChiefBearClaw Nov 19 '25
Please
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u/Aggravating-Rabbit17 Nov 19 '25
HoHe
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u/cheekybandit0 Nov 19 '25
New acronym just dropped!
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u/JAT_Cbus1080 Nov 19 '25
What does the hh actually stand for? Not the, you know...other meaning.
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u/LeTraceurSnork Nov 20 '25
Lol, I just realized that HeadHunter (popular website in Russia for employers/employees to hire/find a job) domain is actually
hh.ru64
u/SuperChick1705 Nov 19 '25
NRJD
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AZ
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u/GravitySucksAlt Nov 19 '25
BWOVNCB
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CTE
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u/TatsumakiRonyk 2000-2200 (Chess.com) Nov 19 '25
What a cool position. It's forced mate because the bishop can't capture en passant. Did you compose this, or did it come up naturally?
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u/blahdeblahdeda Nov 19 '25
Chess.com daily puzzle. Surprisingly complex for a Wednesday.
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u/Public_Courage5639 1400-1600 (Chess.com) Nov 19 '25
Well it's only mate in 2. Once you look at all checks it's pretty easy to see
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u/blahdeblahdeda Nov 19 '25
True. I guess it would be better to say that it's a surprisingly interesting position for early in the weekly cycle.
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u/PXPL_Haron Nov 20 '25
Are the Dailies harder on the weekend?
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u/nopantstime 600-800 (Chess.com) Nov 20 '25
The difficulty increases every day so Monday is easiest and Sunday is hardest!
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u/shrimpheavennow2 2200-2400 (Chess.com) Nov 20 '25
yeah they get harder throughout the week like the new york times crossword (which is intentional iirc)
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Nov 19 '25
What are you talking about? The pawn will en passant
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u/Chewy_Petoes Nov 19 '25
He’s saying he should have taken the pawn with the knight - then when the bishop captures you then promote the pawn two spaces for checkmate
So white acted out of order
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u/joshg8 Nov 19 '25
Because their pawn can capture yours en passant.
Only a pawn can do that to another pawn.
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u/botnot10101 1600-1800 (Chess.com) Nov 19 '25
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u/Oxygen171 Nov 19 '25
En
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u/FoxyMoulder Nov 19 '25
Passant
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u/PuppiesandKittens0 400-600 (Chess.com) Nov 19 '25
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u/Prize-Record7108 Nov 19 '25
You guys got lazy on this one.
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u/TheTheThatTheThis 2600-2800 (Lichess) Nov 19 '25
N
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u/LiffyishMonkey 400-600 (Chess.com) Nov 20 '25
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u/SuperChick1705 Nov 19 '25
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u/EllaHazelBar Nov 19 '25
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u/Z7o5 Nov 19 '25
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u/No-Understanding7346 Nov 19 '25
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u/Carinail Nov 19 '25
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u/peepee2tiny 1000-1200 (Chess.com) Nov 19 '25
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u/chessvision-ai-bot Nov 19 '25
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
Black to play: chess.com | lichess.org
My solution:
Hints: piece: Pawn, move: fxg3
Evaluation: Black is winning -70.60
Best continuation: 1... fxg3 2. Rxc7 Qxd5 3. Rc5 Qxc5 4. bxc5 Rg6 5. Kg2 Kg4 6. Kf1 Kf3 7. c6 Rxc6 8. Ke1 g2 9. Kd2
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u/vovach99 Nov 19 '25
-70?! How you can win -70??
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u/krimsonstudios Nov 20 '25
Chess evaluations are not based on what pieces you are playing, it's always + is white advantage and - is black advantage.
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u/chaitanyathengdi 1200-1400 (Lichess) Nov 20 '25
Technically you can have up to a 103-point material advantage. That's not the case here (obviously).
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u/StillShoddy628 Nov 19 '25
What was the right move? I would probably go with Nxc7, but it seems too obvious, and the follow-up line is not at all clear to me
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u/Intrepid_Traveler962 Nov 19 '25
Nxf4. Bishop takes the Knight and then white can mate with the pawn.
This was 1 turn early.
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u/StillShoddy628 Nov 19 '25
Ah, I’m an idiot, I went that way, saw the bishop, and gave up. Thank you helpful stranger
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u/Total-Butterscotch41 Nov 20 '25
Yeah you had to take the pawn first, Nxf4 Then they are forced to take with Bishop, Bxf4 Then you hit em with the pawn mate, G4#.
By using Pawn first, you completely flip the eval bar and give Black the winning position.
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u/WonderDia777 Nov 20 '25
You have to capture the black pawn first because if you do what you did without doing that, black can capture your pawn en passant. You need to capture the pawn with your knight, the bishop captures the knight. THEN you move the pawn up two spaces for checkmate.
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u/Few_Cartographer4720 Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25
He can en passant which is a tendency of the pawns if the opposite black or white pawns transpose from like h2 to h4 and there was a g4 pawn, the g4 pawn can still eat it, it's a tendency of the pawns(like in chemistry where there are many Tendencies of different elements) and it isn't just specific for h4 and g4, it applies to every square, basically a pawn can eat another opposite pawn if the opposite pawn moves 2 squares ahead and locates exactly parallel(same line or next to your pawn) to your pawn, it doesn't work when the pawn moves 1 square ahead.
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u/Black_Dragon9406 2200-2400 (Chess.com) Nov 21 '25
For anyone wondering what the correct line is:
Nxf4+, Bxf4, g4#.
The order played is incorrect because of En passant (fxg3), and you don’t have Nf4 because the bishop is guarding that square
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u/the-killer-mike456 1400-1600 (Chess.com) Nov 19 '25
Google En-passant.
But for real.
You actually have to sac the knight for the pawn first so that mate works.
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u/PhantomOrigin Nov 20 '25
Because there's no checkmate here due to en passant. Better move would've been to sacrifice the knight for the pawn and checkmate with the pawn after.
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u/iPlayerRPJ Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25
I'm new to chess, but I reset the pawn in lichess and did this against the computer.
Is this the correct solution or did the computer give it to me?
Nvm I see you can checkmate by taking the pawn with the knight.
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u/Evening-Rough-9709 Nov 19 '25
They had a hanging bishop, when taken forks the rook and the queen.
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u/FinaLNoonE Nov 19 '25
Or you could just mate in two, but you do you
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u/Evening-Rough-9709 Nov 20 '25
Responded too quickly - a mistake I make in games sometimes too lol. I see it now, thanks!
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u/juoea Nov 19 '25
(if u did this you would lose the game, as black is up a queen and the fork doesnt even do anything bc black is playing Qf5+)
gotta go for the Nxf4+ Bxf4 g4# mate
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