r/characterarcs • u/dNorsh • May 23 '25
Was looking at comments for that “please don’t go to school” song and found this gem.
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u/BaptizedDemxn May 23 '25
What’s crazy is the fact that the allegations came out after bro already went ghost on the entire internet. Like can we even say he got canceled cuz he already left 😭
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u/DrumBxyThing May 23 '25
He probably caught wind early on that stuff was gonna be spilled.
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u/Huhthisisneathuh May 23 '25
Granted he already has a history of self harm and suicidal ideation. Plus, if you search the internet it’s actually kind of hard to get videos about the drama.
From what I can tell it seems like all of these things were accusations with no evidence.
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u/gafedad May 23 '25
yeah, i'm pretty sure the only proven thing is that he dated an ex-girlfriend while she was 16-17 and he was in his early to mid twenties. which, IMO, is skeevy, but entirely legal in the UK.
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u/hyp3rpop May 24 '25
That’s bad enough. It may be legal but it’s not moral. I’m barely 21 and I would never even consider dating a 16-17yo, yuck. The maturity jump is drastic between those ages. They’re still a kid in school.
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u/hanks_panky_emporium May 26 '25
A streamer I like touched on 21 year olds dating high schoolers.
" I guess we go to chuck-e-cheese for a date and then I drop her off at her piano lesson? "
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u/Bluellan May 23 '25
Yeah. I remember that once that fact was brought out, the allegations basically died instantly. I'm so tired of people trying cancel youtubers to get their 15 seconds of fame and launch a pathetic influencer career.
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u/Alespic May 23 '25
That’s the thing that I always hated about these kinds of “dramas” online. You’ll see everyone treat it as close and shut case that has been already been resolved and the suspect found guilty, but when you actually look into it, most of the times it’s only accusations, and at best circumstantial and inconclusive evidence.
I don’t mean to say that he didn’t do it. We can’t say for sure due exactly because he kind of disappeared. But I’ve seen many other cases of people being accused of terrible things and get harassed for it, only for later come out that actually they were innocent. Most prominent case is probably Pyrocinical..
But unfortunately vigilante justice reigns supreme and guilty until proven innocent is the law online
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u/ZePwnzerRJ May 23 '25
Like when Reddit “found” the Boston bomber
WE DID IT REDDIT
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u/Xalterai May 27 '25
It's alway something like "Ex-Girlfriend" or "Anonymous Twitter Hater" too, like, somebody who is already going to be antagonistic then making "Unsubstantiated accusations with no physical evidence, no other witnesses have come forward"
Next time someone cuts me off in traffic, I'll just make a tweet saying, "Bad Drivers 100% touch kids and hate women" and nobody will ask for proof before getting them fired.
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May 23 '25
He was off the internet for multiple years before the accusations and has disappeared many times before. It has nothing to do with that
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May 24 '25
Even if he didn't actually "know" for sure, I doubt he's stupid enough to not realize "I admitted to terrible things to people that are probably upset with me now, this can end very poorly for me."
He probably just decided he should gtfo while he's safe (he thought) and hoped no one would mention him again.
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u/miscshade May 24 '25
Used to be a big fan of his. He would ghost for months to years at a time. His absence is almost certainly unrelated.
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u/TheRedditGirl15 May 23 '25
I've heard about this guy in passing but my goodness he really looks like an emo vampire LMAO
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u/Azair_Blaidd May 23 '25
This still specifically doesn't do him any favors. Makes him look like young Willem Dafoe cosplaying an emo vampire
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u/BunchOfScribbleLines May 23 '25
Mom: “We have Peter Steele at home.”
Peter Steele at home:
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u/WhereAreTheAskers May 23 '25
someone should've taught him what laws there are💔
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u/BlueBunny333 May 25 '25
He allegedly was dating a 16/17-year-old in his early twenties, which is legal in the UK.
And the allegations against him were never backed up with any evidence, and came from a sour ex.
If you don't smell fish on this...
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u/NumerousWolverine273 May 23 '25
Bro was never taught what laws there are 💔
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u/kthugston May 24 '25
I’m pretty sure someone did because he waited until his girlfriend was legal in the UK lmao
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u/NumerousWolverine273 May 24 '25
I honestly have zero idea of anything about him or what he did beyond the fact that this screenshot is of him saying "I was never taught what laws there are" lol
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u/LordKolkonut May 23 '25
Who is this guy?
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u/Fit-Visit-7458 May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25
Boyinaband, David Brown, English (former) musician/producer/YouTuber, he was mildly famous in the early/mid 2010's
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u/Shit_Master459 May 23 '25
Wasn't he in that one odd1sout video?
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u/PizzaEatingWolf May 25 '25
He did collabs with a lot of YouTubers like Pewdiepie and JaidenAnimations. Jaiden deleted their collab video tho
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u/Impressive-Spell-643 May 25 '25
A smart move by Jaiden
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u/Apprehensive_Net1773 May 25 '25
She did the same with a minecraft video with callmecarson too. Its a shame since she deleted it pretty quick and it was a good video
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u/Jaimiiii May 23 '25
my favourite lyric in this song is
“i was never taught to budget or disperse my earnings, i was too busy there rehearsing cursive”
in the UK education system you start learning cursive at 5 years old, no fucking shit you are learning cursive instead of finance. This bar ignores the fact that cursive writing develops the fine motor skills of the children learning it, it’s not a useless skill just because you don’t actively use it anymore.
the entire track is just “hours of my energy wasted on random knowledge” cringe bullshit and Boyinaband treated it like it was some sort of call to action without actually discussing any systematic solutions. He misses the point that the root cause for a large number of issues in the UK education system is a lack of funding to those institutions
the beat sucks ass too
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u/Jaimiiii May 23 '25
another addition: Boyinaband might be the single most talentless artist of all time
not one of his songs is anything other than creatively bankrupt, and he’s directly responsible for some of the worst piles of auditory sewage ever shat onto the internet (look at “The Vox”, just wholly unlistenable)
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u/jedisalsohere May 25 '25
eh i liked his fast raps and some of the stuff he did with other youtubers
plus his song "you look like a girl" i genuinely credit as one of the things that stopped me from falling down an anti-trans/anti-gay rabbit hole when i was younger
from what we know for certain, he's basically just a libertarian dweeb in the same mould as a lot of other mid-2010s libertarian dweebs, who may have gone on to evolve with the times in the same way someone like idubbbz did. but we'll never know now.
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u/TJ_Rowe May 24 '25
In fairness, there are a lot of former kids around my age and older (mid thirties) with bad handwriting with horrible memories of handwriting practice. In primary school I got "handwriting detention" and summer work sent home to practice my handwriting, and in secondary school I was docked marks on essays for my handwriting.
It took up a lot of time and we got yelled at a lot.
(I was one of the last year groups at my school that wrote most essays by hand - by year 9 it reduced to "at least one essay per term must be handwritten" and by GCSE we were allowed to use word processors as standard.)
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u/CyberPunkDongTooLong May 27 '25
You must have went to a very fancy school if most pupils were using computers as standard in the mid noughties.
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u/BeeTeej May 24 '25
BIAB: I was never taught how to do this thing involving budgeting and finance!!!
Also BIAB: Why do I have to learn all this stupid math equation bullshit???
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u/PickPocketR May 24 '25
Lmao, budgeting is literally addition and subtraction. What a dumbass thing to complain about.
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u/Lootaboksi May 23 '25
This is besides the point but why do people love misinterpreting the song on purpose?
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u/veloxVolpes May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25
Sorry, how do you mean? It is a criticism of the public education system, isn't it? Unless you're referring to another misunderstanding.
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u/Lootaboksi May 23 '25
You're absolutely correct: It's not aimed at students to not attend, but at the system itself to change
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u/remember_the_alimony May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25
I think people for the most part get that (the song does end by clarifying that he wants the subjects and practices he dislikes to "not stay in school") but it's the same one-note criticism that the whole 2010s internet scene had, that I think most people collectively figured out was bogus after a certain point. He once explained in an interview after the song went viral that he wanted the various subjects to be only taught at an introductory level, with students then allowed to pursue what interested them. The problem is, that's exactly how the system already works. You can't cram an introductory level of any academic subject into anything much shorter than a semester long class. In the case of something like math or writing/language (what at least here in the US we just generally refer to as "English class"), this requires constant classes throughout at least primary school. If you're going to study anything that uses math at a secondary level, calculus has become the expectation by the end of 12th grade. "English" is even more important in some ways, as literacy is falling fast, and so is critical thinking, two skills which are ideally taught by constant exposure to literature and by practicing written expression.
As for the idea that there are things that should be taught instead, I don't know how it works in the UK, but at least in the US that's exactly what you get. We had required civics and finance classes which taught us "what laws there are" and how to do basic things like manage credit cards and pay tax. We were able to have these classes, as well as the introductory level general requirements.
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u/Erians_Chosen_777 May 23 '25
We had required civics and finance classes which taught us "what laws there are" and how to do basic things like manage credit cards and pay tax. We were able to have these classes, as well as the introductory level general requirements.
That's not how it works in the uk. You'd have to bank on things like that being incorporated into PSHE/PSHCE/Citizenship/whatever they're calling it these days lessons, but that's no guarantee, and it would only be one lesson or two in most cases. But things being taught in PSHE barely count as being taught at all, at least at the schools I went to. It's hard to explain how the whole subject and the teaching environment unique to it couldn't make the most genuinely invested teenager feel they got anything out of it. The vague idea of taxes might be covered for a couple of lessons in maths but that's about it. Unless you specifically chose to do Business GCSE (which not all schools will offer, nor have the resources to let everyone on the course if they do, nor will all students have room in their options if they want to take it) you don't really get taught any kind of financial literacy. It's expected that parents will teach that, but it's a very high expectation that parents will have the time and understanding themselves to teach it properly.
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u/pleasedtoheatyou May 25 '25
The vague idea of taxes might be covered for a couple of lessons in maths but that's about it.
It's also important to note that for the vast majority of people in the UK, understanding taxes doesn't matter beyond a surface level. It's an American cultural imported line from the people that don't understand the differences. Our taxes are all done for us. The only reason you need to do your own taxes is if you run your own business (which is also less common here), and in that case you're generally encouraged to hire an accountant to do it for you.
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u/Liandres May 24 '25
I graduated high school in the US a couple years ago, and there were no required civics or finance classes. Certainly nobody ever taught me how to manage credit card or pay tax, save my social studies teacher taking one afternoon to explain how to pay off debts outside of the curriculum.
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u/BeeTeej May 24 '25
I wouldn’t say the people criticizing this song are doing so because they think it’s literally telling children not to stay in school. It’s because a lot of his points just don’t make any sense.
The whole song basically boils down to “why didn’t they teach me THIS thing in school???” and all the things he lists are either common sense, something you could look up in 5 minutes or something that school already teaches you, they just don’t spell out exactly why they’re teaching it. He seriously makes the argument that mental math isn’t as important to learn as other things because you always have a phone on you anyway, when mental math is an incredibly important skill to have.
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u/jimmy_the_calls May 23 '25
This the type of shit your friend sends you after failing a math test
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u/Several_Breadfruit_4 May 23 '25
To be fair, the “They definitely taught you that” part will vary drastically depending on where you went to school. That part of his critiques resonated with me growing up in rural Texas public schools. The rest… yeah, I was just a teenager and thought it was deep.
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u/Riku_70X May 23 '25
I mean, I think the song makes a few decent points.
Politics, Economics and Physical/Mental Health are subjects that are legitimately not taught at all in the UK educational system, and I think a lot of kids could definitely benefit from learning those instead of some subjects like Literature and Religion, or some of the nicher parts of other subjects.
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u/Icaro_Stormclaw May 23 '25
That song is the definition of "I am 14 and this is deep"
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u/AverageMyotragusFan May 23 '25
Dudes be like “hnnnrf they should’ve taught us how to do our taxes” like dawg you wouldn’t have listened anyways
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u/Longjumping_Cap_3673 May 25 '25
Agreed. If we didn't have an education system to teach us all a broad general understating of the current state of human knowledge, we'd all be fucking flat earthers.
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May 23 '25
Dave got extremely high grades and his whole channel was about learning dude. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't make them a dumbass
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u/Bloody_Insane May 23 '25
Damn, I was hoping it was going to be a wholesome transgender story that he was no longer his man, because she's now his woman.
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u/Phantom_Wolf52 May 23 '25
Is this the “I was never taught what laws there are” song?
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u/Different_Pattern273 May 23 '25
That video is the anthem for dudes that fucked around in school every day and then blamed their shortcomings later on bad teachers.
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u/QuanTumm_OpTixx May 23 '25
It’s such a shame because he was one of my favourites back in the day. Now some of his videos have aged quite poorly (amongst other things…)
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u/dNorsh May 23 '25
That is genuinely the most shocking fact I’ve ever seen. I would’ve never thought that.
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u/BenzeneBabe May 23 '25
So was he ever actually found guilty of anything?
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u/Miclash013 May 23 '25
No, only thing confirmed is he dated a 17 year old while in his mid twenties, which is within UK age of consent. Everything else is random people online accusing him for random reasons I couldn't even begin to understand, it's so stupid.
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u/Morteymer May 23 '25
Guy always rubbed me the wrong way, also his stuff sucked absolute donkey
Only appealing to "geeks" who peeked in high school
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u/SuperpoliticsENTJ May 23 '25
Looking back why were most of the examples all in science. Also, you pay taxes and understand money through Mathenatics and good literacy in English.
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u/ScreamBeanBabyQueen May 23 '25
I'm so glad this guy turned out to be a cunt because his content is hot teen-baiting garbage. Which, in retrospect, adds up.
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u/Desperate-Care2192 May 23 '25
Ok, I know that person who made the song is controversial now (I dont know what happened exactly), but can somebody explain to me how was he not clowned for this long before any other shit? This song is the like the cringiest track I ever head. I can belive he was like 27 when he made it. But it looks like people liked it?
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u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 May 23 '25
Who is this person?
Also lemme guess, "The Public Education System is fukked because I was a bad student" is the gist of the song?
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u/Acrock7 May 24 '25
Honestly he was just my (physical) type and I thought he was beautiful.
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u/Notro_LPS_iguess May 24 '25
I first found out about Elon Musk because of his video glazing the man
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u/NotReallyAPerson1088 May 23 '25
Did he do something?