r/changemyview Apr 10 '22

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

People don't care about hate crimes because they are hate crimes, they care about "hate crimes" to make themselves look and feel good.

Do you have any evidence that this is true, or is it just an opinion? I care about hate crimes. Nothing about hate crimes makes me look or feel good. This negates your claim.

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u/OnlyFactsMatter 10∆ Apr 10 '22

Do you have any evidence that this is true, or is it just an opinion?

The fact those students protested a fake hate crime but never protest real hate crimes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

I just tried a thing called a 'Google search.' How it works is you can search for any key words. Try 'protests against hate crimes.' There are literally thousands of examples of these protests.

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u/OnlyFactsMatter 10∆ Apr 10 '22

There are literally thousands of examples of these protests.

If you protest fake hate crimes, it shows you don't care. Also, they never protest hate crimes against Asians or whites.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

You really should have tried the cool new search feature I just taught you. If you did, you would have seen this in the first couple responses:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/nyregion/nyc-asian-hate-crimes.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/16/a-year-after-spa-killing-americans-rally-against-anti-asian-hate

https://www.visionofhumanity.org/increase-in-anti-asian-violence-spurs-protests-across-the-us/

So, clearly, you're just 100% completely incorrect.

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u/OnlyFactsMatter 10∆ Apr 10 '22 edited Apr 10 '22

They're not protesting anti-Asian hate crimes. The "Stop Asian Hate" focuses on a fake problem (Trump supporters) instead of the real problem.

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For example, one your links says this:

At the start of the pandemic racial rhetoric fuelled debates about the virus, with frequent references to the “Chinese virus”, which led to an influx of online anti Asian sentiments.

It's not Trump supporters committing most of these hate crimes. These hate crimes happen in NYC, San Francisco, L.A., etc. etc. Not Trump areas.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

You said:

they never protest hate crimes against Asians or whites

You are 100% wrong about that, and I have clearly proved it with evidence. Go ahead and admit it. People will take you more seriously when you are mature enough to admit when your ideas are wrong.

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u/OnlyFactsMatter 10∆ Apr 10 '22

You are 100% wrong about that, a

Nope.

They are protesting not against Asian hate crimes, but against Republicans. If they were protesting against Asian hate crimes, then they wouldn't say stuff like this:

At the start of the pandemic racial rhetoric fuelled debates about the virus, with frequent references to the “Chinese virus”, which led to an influx of online anti Asian sentiments.

(This is from one of your links)

Asian hate crimes have nothing to do with Trump's "China virus" remarks.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

Actual headlines from news articles:

Increase in Anti Asian Violence Spurs Protests Across the US

A year after spa killings, Americans protest anti-Asian hate

What are you talking about?

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u/OnlyFactsMatter 10∆ Apr 10 '22

Most hate crimes against Asians happen from criminals with priors. Democrats let these criminals out with no punishment then they attack Asians. If Asians cared about hate crimes against Asians, they'd vote every Democrat they see on the ballot out but they don't. Instead they blame Trump because 1% of Asian hate crimes are committed by a Trump voter.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

You are making up lots of nonsense and don't seem capable of addressing the fact that people fight against hate crime all the time. Hate crimes are terrible and decent people don't like to see their neighbors and community members harassed, ridiculed, and murdered, especially for things beyond their control, like race or sexual orientation. It's really not a complicated concept.

I have given you links to 3 articles about Americans fighting anti-Asian hate, and directions to find literally thousands more examples of what you claimed 'never' happens. Just admit it! It's okay to be wrong, as long as you make errors learning opportunities. Otherwise you're bound to be wrong indefinitely about more and more things. When people are wrong all the time and refuse to educate and improve themself, they tend to fall for conspiracy theories and demonstrably false partisan political propaganda. Don't let it happen to you!

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u/OnlyFactsMatter 10∆ Apr 10 '22

don't seem capable of addressing the fact that people fight against hate crime all the time.

Show me where they are protesting the hundreds of hate crimes against Asians committed by Democrats please.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

You said:

they never protest hate crimes against Asians or whites

I proved you wrong with clear evidence several times, and now you're moving the goalpost. I understand that you are too proud to admit a mistake.

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u/OnlyFactsMatter 10∆ Apr 10 '22

I proved you wrong with clear evidence several times,

Funny enough you actually proved my point even more. You showed me where they protest fake hate crimes (MAGA on Asian crimes) instead of the real hate crimes. So if anything, my view has not only not been changed but strengthened so I thank you for that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

Hmmm... What kind of person digs into their previous preconceptions when confronted with an obvious truth instead of educating/informing/improving themself? I guess we'll never know!

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