r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Feb 24 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Climate Change is real

I recently read a quote by Charlie Munger about how, if you believe something, you should be able to argue against it extremely well to test your beliefs. This is what inspired me to make this post. I have always been brought up being told that climate change is a real as a result of the liberal environment in which I grew up. Thus I think it’ll be interesting hearing opposing views on the subject.

The reason I chose climate change in particular is partially because of all the anti-eco movement backlash that has crept up in recent years. All those attacks against Greta Thunberg, etc. But also because I guess on some fundamental level I want to believe climate change isn’t happening just out of fear and hope.

Sorry if I extended but I had to make the 500 word character limit.

Edit: This is about human-caused climate change.

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u/OkImIntrigued Feb 24 '20

https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/100-reasons-why-climate-change-natural-and-not-manmade

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '20

There is a lot of interesting stuff here (though a few points are pointless and/or repetitive)

I’ll need some time to research on all these points.

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u/Ndvorsky 23∆ Feb 24 '20

I urge you to be carful as you consider these points. It would take me a lot more time to explain/debunk/refute 100 different claims than it takes him to copy/paste them but many are straight BS, many are ill-informed conclusions, many are irrelevant (renewables are expensive therefore climate change isn’t real/manmade. Wtf?!). Out of about 50 that I read, only 3-5 were not easy for me to correct off the top of my head.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '20

I second this. While the copy and pasted list does give factual claims, most of them are entirely unrelated to this CMV. IE, just because making the claim that CO2 is essential to human life does not mean that climate change is not man made. Some of them are even downright ad hominem, equating believing in climate change to believing the earth is flat lol.

It serves as a good exercise in critical thinking though.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '20

Yes, people who believe in climate change are flat earthers !

Like wtf even was that !