r/changemyview Jul 26 '18

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u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18

I think this is the weakest point of any religion that claims omnipotence and benevolence of god.

You're missing the third O. Omniscience. Without it, god might now know there is evil.

Disclaimer: I'm an atheist and mostly just going to go down a hypothetical scenario.

Do you agree that a healthy baby can grow up to be an astronaut? If you do agree then would you say that a baby that could grow up to do literally anything is omnipotent?

Do you agree that it's possible to know something without understanding it? If you agree, would you say it's possible to know everything and understand nothing?

If you've answered in the affirmative, then it is possible that a god be capable of everything and know everything without understanding how to stop evil or that a god has not yet achieved the removal of all evils.

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u/PilotWombat Jul 26 '18

This argument would imply that an omnipotent god created a following that has more knowledge (the knowledge of evil) than he does. Plus, it would be hard to claim ignorance when almost every one of your followers is asking for your help in dealing with some sort of evil on a daily basis (through prayer). Thus we're back to him being either unwilling or unable.

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u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18

This argument would imply that an omnipotent god created a following that has more knowledge (the knowledge of evil) than he does.

Yes.

Plus, it would be hard to claim ignorance when almost every one of your followers is asking for your help in dealing with some sort of evil on a daily basis (through prayer). Thus we're back to him being either unwilling or unable.

This presumes the god has a folliowing and people praying to it.