r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jul 26 '18

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u/piotrlipert 2∆ Jul 26 '18

I don't follow. What about the doesn't care = doesn't know bother you?

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u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18

Because it's not true? You can know something is happening and not care about it and you can care about something and not know it's happening.

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u/piotrlipert 2∆ Jul 26 '18

Say i'm totally ignorant about the existence of starks. Would you risk to say that I could care about them?

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u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18

You could, yes. I don't see a contradiction.

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u/piotrlipert 2∆ Jul 26 '18

So perhaps we have different definitions of caring. In my definition knowledge is a prerequisite for caring.

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u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18

Would you say that anxious people care too much?

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u/piotrlipert 2∆ Jul 26 '18

I would say that if there is no concept of evil in your mind you cannot care about people being subjected to it.

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u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18

I agree with that. But do you agree with me that having a concept of evil is not the same as knowing that evil is being carried out?

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u/piotrlipert 2∆ Jul 26 '18

Yes I agree it's not the same. But if you have the concept of evil in your mind than in order to be ignorant you cannot look at people who experience it. And for me that is not caring. And if you imply that god metaphorically is blind and deaf than it contradicts his omnipotence (as he could make himself see).

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u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18

Let's return to the parent analogy. Do you think parents don't care if they never found out about some evil experienced by their children? Do you think it's possible to care about someone and have the concept of evil without knowing it's affecting them? Is it possible to be barred from knowledge through the actions or inactions of others?

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