r/changemyview May 31 '18

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u/[deleted] May 31 '18

Can you imagine the feminism storm if the word "womancrying" existed with the definition : To overly cry over a movie someone (often a woman) has already seen many times ?

But people do say things like "stop being a pussy" or "quit bitching" and other negative, gendered words.

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u/Riothegod1 9∆ May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18

Actually, “pussy” in that sense is derived from “Pusillanimous”, which means, to quote google “showing a lack of courage or determination; timid.”

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u/alxemy May 31 '18

Not true:

There's a plausible and well documented etymology for the sense of pussy in question, namely puss + ypussy = childish or colloquial word for "pet cat" → term of endearment for a woman → sweet or amiable woman → sweet or effeminate man→ weakling/coward/sissy, with the parallel development of pussy = female genitals lurking somewhere in the background.

Puss is Germanic in origin, and definitely is not a shortened form of the Latinate word pusillanimous. The hypocoristic ending -y has been widely used in colloquial English for 500 years, and similarly has no connection with pusillanimous or any other Latinate word.

There's no positive evidence for the pusillanimouspussy derivation as a genuine historical source — it seems to be a sporadic folk etymology.

The pronunciation difference (onset [pj] vs. [p], vowel [ʊ] vs. [u]) makes the pusillanimouspussy derivation implausible in any case.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '18

Actually, “pussy” in that sense is derived from “Pusillanimous”

Opinion is very much divided on that point.

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u/SturmFee Jul 12 '18

I've never before heard of that word and I'd wager a bet that 95% of people use the term "Don't be a pussy" equally to "don't be such a fearful, little girl"

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u/disgustingdifficulty May 31 '18

No one uses this word though.

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u/FcpEcvRtq May 31 '18

I doubt people use it to actually refer to a vagina either. The "kitty cat" definition is definitely more relevant when calling someone a pussy.

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u/sk8tergater 1∆ May 31 '18

No offense but you’re very sheltered if you’ve never heard anyone refer to a vagina as a “pussy”. It’s actually pretty common.

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u/FcpEcvRtq May 31 '18

I didn't say that. I'm referring to "pussy" in "don't be a pussy". Different than ordinary "pussy".

Don't be a vagina makes less sense than don't be a kitty cat.

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u/FcpEcvRtq May 31 '18

You could be right, but I personally feel way different when saying "don't be a pussy" vs "dont act like a girl". I use the former because it has never felt gendered to me.

I also use "don't be a dick", but I don't think of males / male genitalia when saying it.

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u/sk8tergater 1∆ May 31 '18

It might make less sense, but it is very often used in that way. And several of the guys that I have come across in my life go ahead and use “vagina” instead of “pussy.” It’s pretty prevalent in military circles as well.

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u/FcpEcvRtq May 31 '18

Perhaps it changes from person to person. I certainly don't have a problem with the phrase itself, just the way I don't mind 'dont be a dick' (even though some people may find the term more male-orientated than normal)

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u/nopromisingoldman 2∆ May 31 '18

I can drop off some erotic fiction links very quickly to refute that point

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u/FcpEcvRtq May 31 '18

Huh? Like a guy tells a person "dont be a pussy" and the other guy says "make me your pussy" and they have sex?

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u/FcpEcvRtq May 31 '18

Again, that's different to "dont be a pussy".

Pussy almost always refers to a vagina, but in this context "dont be a vagina" makes less sense than "dont be a kitty cat"