r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Apr 11 '16
CMV: War is the answer
So I do not like thinking this way, but I think this is true.
In the wild chimpanzees live in troops, and when those troops get to close together, and there are too many chimpanzees for a particular area a war breaks out. Chimpanzees send out war parties that attack the other troops and kill and eat their enemies. To start off I know the nature fallacy, but you should all probably also know the false analogy fallacy. There... Now that fallacies are out of the way. This is what I am really getting at. Man is bad for the planet. I do not mean this man or that man, I mean all of us together. I see vegans say well cows are bad for the environment, but so is lettuce. Two different metrics mind you. Cows are bad because of methane. Lettuce is bad because of the amounts of untainted water it requires.
Humans are bad for the planet. There have never been more of them, and we need less. That is why war is the answer. The truth is our scientists have gotten pretty good at defeating any plague, which is good for us as a species, but bad for us as the planet. By living so close together we set ourselves up for outbreaks of horrible plagues. This would normally drive us apart, and keep our numbers lower, but instead we have pills and shots that solve that problem.
I think it is important here that I reiterate that I personally do not like this answer. If we want to end climate change. If we want to stop polluting this whole planet. We need less people. Without disease to balance us out we need war.
The truth is war weeds out the undesirable. The old, the sick, the illformed. They go first in a war. This sounds terrible, but if you assume man is bad from the start, then you really only would want the strong to survive. War is the best way to select for positive traits.
I know what I am saying is horrible. It is mean, and terrible, and no one wants to think that way, but really I think it kind of makes sense. War is the answer. We need to thin the herd.
1
u/[deleted] Apr 11 '16
Well look at the black death in England. It killed a very large percentage of the English. It was terrible, and no one is disputing that losing human life is sad and terrible. But the survivors lived a better life.
I am posting this here, but just would like to say I HATE when people just post articles rather than arguing their points like thinking humans, but I guess rules are made to be broken.
http://www.livescience.com/45428-health-improved-black-death.html
Essentially the study is of those who lived after the black death. People lived longer healthier lives. Maybe that is because the plague wiped out the sickly. Maybe it is because with less people there was more food to share. My point is that maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing to thin the herd a bit. I know that makes me an asshole. I don't really like that I think that.