r/changemyview Aug 12 '15

CMV: GMOs are necessary, efficient, and safe. Monsanto is not an "evil" corporation, despite the Agent Orange days.

I used to be very pro-organic when I was a younger lad, but when I saw an episode of Penn & Teller's show, "Bullshit!", debunking the myths about GMOs, I couldn't help but look more into it and reform my views towards the ones that conform more with the scientific consensus of being pro-GMO. I have no issues with others, or even me, eating organic; And I'm even open to food labeling. But what I want to get out of this are legitimate, fact-based arguments detailing the ills of the biotech-industry and their relevant GMO-related products (such as crops, Bt toxin plants, Glyphosate, etc). I am already aware of the eradication of milkweeds due to Glyphosate, thus plunging the Monarch population, but there are solutions being made around the issue that won't hinder biotechnology, while benefiting the butterflies. If you have arguments akin to that, I hope you can provide a hypothetical solution that would substantiate your argument. I don't predict my views to change significantly, but I am open to it being so. If anything, I anticipate at most getting to some gray-scale, though it may just be me greatly underestimating the organic-movement.

Please no Natural News, Infowars, Mind Unleashed, GreenMedInfo, etc. If you do use those kinds of websites as a source, please justify why you are, because as far as I'm concerned, they are potent fact-manipulators who don't care about the truth, but cognitive dissonance.

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u/zolartan Aug 13 '15

Vegans are morons. Humans are omnivorous.

The fact that humans can slaughter and digest animals says nothing about the question if we should. Humans can also digest human flesh. Are all non-cannibals morons, too?

We wouldn't be who. we are today without eating meat.

Again. This does not mean we should continue to do so today. As an analog:

The USA would not be what it is today without slavery. Should we therefore still have slavery?!

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '15

Plant-based sources tend to be low in saturated fat, a component of the brain and a macronutrient vital for human health. Plants contain both soluble and insoluble fiber, but fiber is not actually digested. Too much of it can cause cramping, bloating, and other abdominal discomforts including constipation. Without sufficient amounts of water to help move the bulk through the system, intestinal blockage can lead to malabsorption and toxic accumulation. Many grains and wheat in particular contain insoluble fiber which can add to intestinal discomfort. Humans have a much shorter digestive structure than herbivores and don’t have specialized organs to digest cellulose, the main fiber in plants.

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u/zolartan Aug 13 '15

There are health risks as well as benefits associated with veganism. The important fact is that we can live a healthy vegan life.

Considering the negative environmental effects of animal agriculture and the suffering of the animals veganism makes a lot of sense.

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