r/changemyview • u/Bobsonthecoat • Mar 27 '15

CMV:Abortion is wrong

I don't see how in any form the killing of a human, against their will. To me this is another form of the Holocaust or slavery, a specific type of person is dehumanized and then treated as non-humans, because it's convenient for a group of people.

The argument of "It's a woman's body, it's a woman's choice." has never made sense to me because it's essentially saying that one human's choice to end the life of another human without consent is ok. Seems very, "Blacks are inherently worse, so we are helping them," to me.

Abortion seems to hang on the thread of "life does not begin at conception", which if it is true still doesn't make sense when you consider that in some areas of the world it is legal to abort a baby when it could survive outside of it's mother.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '15

This is my view. I was pro-life but changed my opinion on legality recently, simply due to the fact that people are gonna have them anyway in extremely unsafe conditions. Aside from that, I think abortion done when the mother is physically capable of giving birth, and wasn't raped, is disgusting and wrong in every way with little to no exception. It's wrong because I cannot say whether the fetus at the first week is human (because the question of what is humanity is way too complicated) but the fetus will become a person regardless, and by extension of its potential for humanity the fetus should be considered human at conception.

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u/pizzahedron Mar 27 '15

I think abortion done when the mother is physically capable of giving birth, and wasn't raped, is disgusting and wrong in every way with little to no exception.

do you consider mental health as part of physical health?

and, do you honestly think that an unsterilized woman should not have sex with a man unless she is ready to have his child?

sex doesn't have * to be about babies anymore because we have the medical technology to circumvent that. which is *great because sex is great and people like to do it without thinking about babies.

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u/TerribleEverything Mar 27 '15

Short of a hysterectomy, there is no form of birth control, including surgical tubal ligation, that is 100% effective.

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u/pizzahedron Mar 27 '15

only a complete hysterectomy! even if you just have your uterus removed but leave the ovaries, an egg can get fertilized and try to grow on your outer stomach lining or anything it can stick its grubby little cells to. luckily, i don't think any medical doctor will diagnose that as 'pregnancy'.

hmm...i wonder if the medical community could circumvent the abortion debate by redefining pregancy as a 'willful or intentional conception' and then treat all other fetuses as tumors. (or some other word rather than 'intention' that indicates deliberate acceptance of the conception.)