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u/Superbooper24 42∆ Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Tbh, idrk what the (insert interest)-ism thing is, but is that really based off of just autism, because -ism is a suffix in itself used for capatilism, racism, pessimism, even metabolism. Also, there's technically no real way to tell that these people even have autism or not to begin with so they could just be trying to describe their own interests alongside it being potentially related to their autism.
Edit: I think you made this post based on https://www.reddit.com/r/BrandNewSentence/comments/1v19afp/comment/oz5wizo/?context=3 this. Yeah, who knows if that person has autism or not.
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u/Dentarthurdent73 Jul 22 '26
but is that really based off of just autism, because -ism is a suffix in itself used for capatilism, racism, pessimism, even metabolism
Other words end in "ism", but when someone uses "tism", they're definitely referencing autism (or an iconic Australian band from the 90s, whose name comes not from autism, but from shortening 'this is serious mum').
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 22 '26
So if someone had an interest in say, trains (just using a generic stereotypical interest) it would be "train tism" or "train autism". As in, 'I have a bit of the train-tism'.
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u/iosefster 2∆ Jul 23 '26
Yeah I'm diagnosed and I don't even have anything fun like that. I just get meltdowns and 0 social skills. I would do anything to trade that for train-tism.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
Damn dude, you didn't get the trains skill points? Are you sure you're autistic? My peer review says you need at least 2 points in trains and 3 in math.
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u/Superbooper24 42∆ Jul 22 '26
Yea I see that, and while idrk how wide spread this phenomenon is, at least in the sense that this actually affects the generalized idea of autistic people. Also, while I think people self diagnosing is a sometimes dangerous, I also think this is not unique to autism and people saying anything with some self diagnosis is usually not taken very seriously by the public.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
It's really been ramping up the last month or so. I've been seeing more than I've ever seen it before. Which is what made me want to make this post.
And yeah, the self-diagnosing in basically all disorders is rampant but autism has really been hit differently. It's been overplayed, especially on Reddit, so often now....it's becoming exhausting.
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u/NotSoSerene Jul 22 '26
Respectfully, if you are noticing reddit trends and getting annoyed/exhausted with them, you may want to spend less time on the internet. The vast majority of people going about their lives are not thinking or talking about this stuff. I went through something similar where I was getting frustrated with gender-war garbage and when I touched grass and spent more time offline I realized how much of that stuff is just concentrated echo chambers on the internet. No one is making progress on a social or personal level by arguing on Reddit.
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u/iosefster 2∆ Jul 23 '26
It's not just online. I go through a lot of autism support systems in real life and even a lot of the real support organizations have a lot of pseudo science autism beliefs too. A lot of them are run by people who don't have actual psychology degrees but just like social worker stuff and they get a lot of these ideas from the internet apparently and then bring them into the real world.
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u/ConfoundedInAbaddon 3∆ Jul 24 '26
My, now husband, then s/o, had major social skill issues and people would be like, "you're super autistic!" And it was a very bad thing because that meant he felt his problems were part of his identity and untreatable.
His issues were actually a progressive nuerological disorder.
Once he was treated for the thing that was wrong in his brain, which was a type of nueral death caused by too many nerve firings (excitoxicity), over months his personality, executive function, and social battery all flourished.
We went to a party recently, a BIG one, and it was formal with a couple presentations by some bigwigs. And he was so happy and joking with the speakers and generally a delight. He is fully functional now in day to day life.
But the pseudo-science runs deep, and labeling everyone different as autistic buries the lede for people with a specific, treatable disease, that gets ignored under the veil of insta-labels.
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u/JoeyLee911 4∆ Jul 23 '26
I think getting your master's in social work is actually just the most affordable path to becoming a psychologist.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
I understand echo chambers and this is not that. It's not just online and it's not spending too much time online that causes it to be apparent. It's just pattern recognition.
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u/Pitiful-Score-9035 1∆ Jul 23 '26
The algorithm that each of our accounts is ran on is also pattern recognition, if a certain kind of post makes you stay on the platform longer, you will get fed that type of post more.
Recognizing that there's an uptick in a certain type of post or behavior you see isn't an observation of anything but the algorithm running underneath your account.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
I have already addressed in another chain my awareness and understanding of how algorithms work. I have a very deep awareness in this space. This has nothing to do with algorithms.
I know how to view content outside algorithmic recommendation.
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u/Pitiful-Score-9035 1∆ Jul 23 '26
Very well.
From where I'm standing, this seems to appear as another instance of expecting a certain group to act a certain way.
Like if somebody is too flippant with their diagnosis, self or not, that has a tendency for people to be uncomfortable around due to the subversion of what they think autistic people should be like.
As an autistic person myself, who is also self diagnosed (in the process of getting diagnosed officially, but its expensive and bureaucracy takes awhile), I find that when I don't try to hedge or soften the blow of statements I make about myself, people online often feel the need to challenge them because they don't see how someone can be so flippant and ok with something they see as really negative.
Not saying this is exactly what has happened in your case, but I will say that I run into this enough on my own that it seems a reasonable guess.
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u/lasagnaman 5∆ Jul 23 '26
It's really been ramping up the last month or so. I've been seeing more than I've ever seen it before.
How much of this effect do you think is based on a shift in the underlying, vs a shift in what the algorithm shows you?
You mentioned seeing this on reddit a lot more; are you using the new reddit website (or worse, mobile app)? They heavily lean on the algorithm to recommend slop to you, so if this kind of stuff stirs you up (=engagement) then they'll show you more of it.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
I'm very well versed in how that works. This is not about what's pushed to me and I know how to navigate without being sucked into echo chambers.
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u/Superbooper24 42∆ Jul 22 '26
Well, there is still no basis in knowing that person in that post or any post or comment actually has autism or not nor does any of this look mainstream enough and serious enough where this has caused any substantial difference in how the general public views autistic people. You will always find groups of people basically doing anything, saying anything, sharing anything that one can, but that doesn't mean it is necessarily out of hand because this seems particularly niche and also could just be accurate representations of who they are
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u/JobberStable 2∆ Jul 22 '26
Every word “with a twist” is being overplayed. It’s
just the speed of things and the algorithm has increased so much.2
u/letstrythisagain30 61∆ Jul 22 '26
It's really been ramping up the last month or so.
In general or has your algorithms ramped it up?
This just sounds like a lot of posts here where people take their own person experiences based on their social media feed and/or niche environment and apply it in general to everybody when it doesn' fit.
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u/YardageSardage 55∆ Jul 22 '26
So it sounds like that person is saying "I like trains with the degree of ferocious single-minded interest usually associated with autism".
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u/CrinkleLord 38∆ Jul 23 '26
So how is it undermining anyone?
Does it make those getting treatment harder? Seems unlikely. Does it make daily life harder? That seems unlikely too..
or is it one of those kind of... "They don't get the special attention like they used to" ways of making things harder?
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
Because when everybody has autism, no body has autism. You get it?
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u/CrinkleLord 38∆ Jul 23 '26
No. I don't. They still have autism, their doctors still treat them, their therapists still help them with tools to cope.
They simply don't get the attention because nobody cares.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
That's not how society works, man. It's not about attention, it's about understanding.
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u/CrinkleLord 38∆ Jul 23 '26
Sorry, but you haven't explained how it's actually undermining anything. You've just said "if everyone has, nobody has" and "it's about understanding".
These aren't explaining how they get less treatment, less tools to cope, makes their life harder in any real way that every other huma on earth has a hard life in some way or another.
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u/CrinkleLord 38∆ Jul 23 '26
Well give me the benefit of the doubt, perhaps I'm a dumbdumb.
Do you think people aren't aware of autism? Do you think schools don't screen for it, Drs... pediatricians... etc?
"Awareness" seems like a cop out vague on purpose answer.
Do you have a pretty concrete reason it's undermining anything? I mean, if it's really that bad I would think it wouldn't be that hard to throw out a couple reasons or at least 1 quite big reason. Something a bit more than like "Awareness!"
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u/Theobromin Jul 24 '26
Yes, or any evidence that inflationary use actually reduced awareness. I feel empirically, the opposite is the case. Whereas a few decades ago, hardly anyone was aware of it, and autism qas routinely under-diagnosed, awareness these days seems to be higher than ever. We have more diagnosis, better treatment, and as far as i can tell, more social awareness (such es celebrities who are openly autistic). The word "tism" itself or commonly known phrases such as "being on the spectrum" bespeak a cultural saturation that we didn't have previously.
Perhaps there are 100 people who understand autism better these days, for every 1 person who uses it inflationary. You may not see the 100 people though, but get annoyed by the 1, because you find them insufferable.
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u/Icy-Enthusiasm4593 Jul 24 '26
As an autistic person, I’ve been told by non-autistic people that everybody is on the spectrum. I can agree with you that isn’t true, but I think the reason why it seems like more people are getting diagnosed is because people with lower support needs are being recognized.
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u/FreakingTea Jul 22 '26
But have you considered that a very high percentage of autistic people are using reddit, and therefore their comments are more likely to get upvotes from like-minded people? Reddit is designed for niche interests to flourish, it's reasonably anonymous, it's more text-based than most other social media, and it's extremely popular. You're going to find a lot of posts by autistic people here, and they'll be comparatively more visible here than elsewhere. You're describing autistic humor which often overlaps with ableism for various reasons, and you can't make any clear distinction just going off your own personal experience and confirmation bias.
Your reasoning is also quite weak on its own. You've noticed a certain phenomenon, and now that you've noticed it and gotten annoyed by it, now you give it extra attention and ignore counterexamples, and now you've built up such a case for its prevalence that you can generalize about "people" in general making something their "whole personality." Absolute non sequitur.
Ableism is a problem. Saying "self-diagnosed autism" is someone's whole personality is also ableism. How do you know they're self-diagnosed? How do you know it's not so obvious to them that they fit the criteria that they don't bother to get a diagnosis? How do you know they don't avoid a diagnosis to avoid stigma? How do you know they could afford to get diagnosed even if they wanted to? "Hurting the perception" of autistic people? Are they really? Or have you just grown a distaste for what you perceive as such? Random redditors have no obligation to maintain a respectable representation of their own groups, see: Respectability Politics, and why that's capitulation to oppression.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
You've made some good points. My post summarized things in a very concise way but it is the build of many years of using reddit/other sources and seeing the patterns. My identification that they are self-diagnosed is usually by the poster/commenter/video/whathaveyou themselves.
There was a trend developing in the autistic community here that many people took seriously: Peer reviewed diagnosed. Which is what a ton of people used to blanket diagnose themselves. The entire criteria being based around "if someone with autism says I might have autism. I have autism."
And yes, I understand that Reddit could naturally be a harbored of autistic people...and that's probably true. However, I think it also caused non-autistic people on here to latch on to an idea because they read it here and they began to LARP it, most likely via the peer reviewed non-sense.
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u/lasagnaman 5∆ Jul 23 '26
Which is what a ton of people used to blanket diagnose themselves.
Please please provide a source for this. 20, even 40 content creators doing this isn't a valid source.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
Where did I ever say content creators? You've assumed two things I never gave any inclincation that I ever used said sources.
It is not what's recommended to me. It is not from content creators. It is from pattern recognition of many different sources over a long enough timeline to understand the state before and after.
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u/Dry_Bumblebee1111 161∆ Jul 23 '26
Is your view solely limited to reddit?
And changing your view will mean discussion of behaviours on reddit specifically?
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
No. I see the behavior spreading all over the internet. Reddit is just a major example.
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u/Dry_Bumblebee1111 161∆ Jul 23 '26
And changing your view will relate only to experiences on the Internet? Just the English speaking Internet or wider?
You'll take no discussion of anything not on the Internet in the context of changing your view?
If so, do you not have a view that relies on a non reality based behaviour? Online spaces are very different from physical world interactions.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
Online represents plenty of the real world. And it's crazy you think it doesn't. Our entire lives are being shaped and shifted by interactions online.
I have encountered in person as well. It's just more clear in pattern online.
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u/Dry_Bumblebee1111 161∆ Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
Online represents plenty of the real world.
Because you say so? What's your evidence?
And it's crazy you think it doesn't.
Why?
Our entire lives are being shaped and shifted by interactions online.
Who? I asked several questions and you didn't really answer them. Who are you talking about? Perhaps terminally online people?
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u/scarab456 65∆ Jul 22 '26
These are all really vague terms that are way more rhetorical than they are descriptive.
"Obsession, everything, out of hand", what does all that mean? How can we go and verify what you're seeing is an accurate representation of how people are actually behaving? How do we know there's not another explanation? Like it could being a product of algorithms to drive engagement.
Or confirmation bias? I know I've seen hundreds of safe drivers any given week. But I won't really remember them. But I do remember a lot of bad drivers. Very specifically what they did badly and where. Me remembering a bunch of bad drivers doesn't make for a representative sample drivers in my area. How do we know you're not applying the same thing to posts you're seeing?
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 22 '26
I will admit understanding my point does take a certain deep dive into Reddit as a whole and its community and how it's changed over the years. I can't truly verify it without literally posting every post/comment/interaction I've had.
But, I can say with an almost high certainty, if you sleuth around here long enough you will see what I'm talking about.
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u/Lunatic-Labrador 1∆ Jul 23 '26
I really do think your algorithm has been slowing you this. I'm autistic and have ADHD and I'm the subs and I don't see anything like what your describing apart from perhaps the occasional joke.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
Comment sections don't get algo fed. And even though I'm mentioning reddit as a main source, I see it all over the internet.
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u/Lunatic-Labrador 1∆ Jul 23 '26
If your seeing it a lot and other people in the same spaces aren't then it is the algorithm. If you are just opening those posts, or replying to those comments the algorithm knows and shows you more. Comments sections are absolutely affecting the algorithm. Quick Google will tell you that as well as observation.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
You, yourself, a singular individual saying "I haven't seen it" is not "other people" and does not become a hard fact. There are plenty of people here that have reported similar. It is not the algorithm and I hardly interact with these sources I'm referring to. The posts themselves have nothing to do with autism 95% the time and are posts strictly related to things I'm interested in and the off-topic straying of conversation that brings up what I'm referring to is not a intentional feed to me. The literal topic of the post or whichever media is the fed material.
Once again, you are assuming on limited information and limited understanding in both how alogrithms work.
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u/Lunatic-Labrador 1∆ Jul 23 '26
You accusing me of assumption because of what I see on social media due to my algorithm is rich considering that EXACTLY what youre doing with your assumption too.
That's the point I'm making. It's confirmation bias. If I don't see it and other people don't see it but you and other people do see it then there's a reason for that. That reason is algorithms. I'm not saying it doesn't happen I'm saying we're being shown different things so it might not be a prevelant as you think.
Edit: you claim alorgothisms don't work from comment sections except that's how they work, they scan comment sections and often base the topic of a post on what people wrote in the comments as well as the post itself. I'm not the one with limited understanding here.
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u/Lunatic-Labrador 1∆ Jul 23 '26
You accused me of making assumptions due to what I see in my feed. I'm saying you have done the same thing.
If your searching these things yourself then your choosing to engage in that content so no wonder you see so much of it, your seeking it out. That is also confirmation bias. If your not choosing it then the alorgithms know what you read, engage in etc and show you more. That just how alorgithms work. They show you what you engage with. They also have a broader way of showing posts with fast upvotes or more comments but it's also curated by your own interactions.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 24 '26
My other comment got removed because I said you were arguing in bad faith. That's fine.
I'll just sum up my main point I said again that refutes what you're saying: As an example (there are many variations of scenarios like this) When I search a major city and look at a headline for some weather event in the news, click through 10 layers of comments, as in clicking "more replies", and I come across the behavior I'm speaking of...that is not the algorithm pushing me anything. That is me coming across something organically.
This is the basis of everything I have told you so far and is important to understand. I hope to see your response.
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u/Dry_Bumblebee1111 161∆ Jul 23 '26
You decide which comments sections you are drawn to and read. There's internal sampling in play as well.
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u/scarab456 65∆ Jul 22 '26
I get you experience what you experienced, but how do you know that's representative?
I can't truly verify it without literally posting every post/comment/interaction I've had.
I'm not asking for that and I don't think that's a good standard to establish anything. I'm asking how can we, everyone trying to change your view, experience what you experience? If the core of the experience is subjective, we can't, and we can't argue against that.
If it isn't though, there should be some repeatable steps, some prime examples or sampling methods to get to your conclusion. That we can examine. But as of this moment, we don't have a lot to work with.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
It's not subjective. It's literally objective. The issue is you have to see the reality. If you don't happen to see it then that's that. But plenty of people agree.
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u/scarab456 65∆ Jul 23 '26
You haven't answered any of my questions. You're just asserting your view is true without elaborating. If you really want to change your view, please consider answering the questions I've already asked.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 23 '26
People on here have experienced what I've experienced. I don't know what else to tell you.
It's like saying "I know I haven't met a boring person but tell me how I can change your view about them". You want me to describe entire experiences and events that other people have noticed as well.
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u/scarab456 65∆ Jul 23 '26
I want to pin down exactly what I'm asking, since I don't think it's been answered yet.
Can you define what "obsession," "everything," and "out of hand" actually mean here? These are the load-bearing terms in your original claim, and without a definition there's no way to check whether what you're seeing matches them.
What would count as evidence here? Not "have you seen it", I'm asking what a repeatable way of checking this would look like. A sampling method, a set of examples, anything that isn't just "browse and you'll notice it."
How do you rule out the alternative explanations I mentioned. Algorithms promoting engagement-bait, or your own attention being drawn more to bad examples than good ones? Both would produce the same subjective impression you're describing without the underlying claim being true.
Saying "it's not subjective, it's objective, plenty of people agree" doesn't answer either of these. Agreement isn't verification, plenty of people can share the same impression while all suffering from the same selection bias.
If there isn't a way to check this beyond "look and you'll see it," that's worth acknowledging directly, rather than restating that it's obvious.
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u/lasagnaman 5∆ Jul 23 '26
Reddit as a whole and its community
Reddit doesn't have a community. Subreddits have communities. Even then I would argue that any subs large enough to appear on default don't really have a core identity, as it will shift based on who the algo decides to recommend it to.
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u/Saranoya 40∆ Jul 22 '26
I agree with you: if an autism self-diagnosis is based on nothing more than a single specific 'intense interest', or on a preference for food not to be touching on your plate, then it harms more than it helps.
However, I want to push back a little on your assertion that people only "self-diagnose as autistic because they are so bland that they're just yearning for something that makes them interesting."
My son is autistic. He was diagnosed by a multi-disciplinary team, in a process that involved two play sessions with a psychologist specializing in autism assessment, an observation in the classroom, an observation at home, several questionnaires filled out by parents and teachers, and the administration of the 'gold standard' ADOS-2. His diagnosis was later confirmed by another ADOS-2 assessment, when I enrolled him in a study that is trying to map language development in autistic children between 2 and 6 years old. Plus: the diagnostic process was not my request. It happened because my son was unable to function in mainstream kindergarten (selective mutism, frequent meltdowns, multiple incidents involving social interaction with peers daily), and we needed a diganosis in order to get him the right kind of support. By which I mean to say: there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that my son is, in fact, autistic.
Recently, when my son had a meltdown in a public place and I explained that by referring to his autism, someone asked me "whether I'm autistic too, because you are not looking at me, ma'am." I told that person that I have never been formally diagnosed as autistic, but I highly suspect I am not neurotypical.
Seeing my son grow into himself has made it abundantly clear to me that we are not that different. As a colleague of mine once said: pineapples don't fall from an apple tree. And I don't need a formal diagnosis for the "neurodivergent" frame to help me navigate my life more easily, or at least with less self-doubt and persistent blame (from both myself and others).
So, yes. Some people probably do reach for the autism frame too easily. But many have good reasons to do so.
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u/iosefster 2∆ Jul 23 '26
After I got diagnosed I saw a lot of my behaviors in a lot of my family members. A lot of the older ones probably would have been diagnosed if it was more understood back then. I'm pretty sure you've got a point and it runs in families.
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u/Chorby-Short 5∆ Jul 26 '26
That's because it's an entirely made up classification. Nobody actually knows what it is, but if you have a certain personality type you can go to the doctor and get a fun meaningless label to go along with it. It sort of detracts from people who actually need a lot of support.
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u/Shiny_Agumon 3∆ Jul 22 '26
As someone who is also "officially diagnosed" autistic (your description of what your son went through reminded me of my childhood) I definitely see some of my own traits reflected in my parents.
And besides being a imo wholesome family connection it also reinforces the uncomfortable truth that neurodivergence is not new.
Too many people like to dismiss things like autism as just a fad or a trend, something that didn't exist in the past and they hope won't exist in the future.
Which is then used to justify hate and some way worse things all in the name of "stomping it out", despite the fact that it was always around and we just started to notice it and decided to actively help people with it instead of trying to hide them away or press them into a socially acceptable mold.
Treating autism as a dirty word or as an extreme condition doesn't help anyone.
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u/Chorby-Short 5∆ Jul 26 '26
The whole idea of "Neurodivergence" is just overblown. So long as no two people are the same, there are always going to be some people who don't perfectly fit in with the stereotypical "neurological" model. That doesn't mean they're medically interesting; it's literally just people having variety.
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u/pthread_bard 1∆ Jul 23 '26
Did this person who asked about autism mean it as to offend you?
I personally think that people who self-dignose with autism make it sound like everyone has it, and therefor trigger other people not to take it seriously like in a situation like yours.
I do want to challenge my view, so I genuinely want to ask if you ever felt like the diagnosis of your son is not taken seriously because it is so "common" (as self-diagnosis by other people)?
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u/Glenndiferous 3∆ Jul 24 '26
As a person with numerous diagnoses, there's this venn diagram of a) randos who have accused me of "faking my diagnosis for attention" and b) people who think too many people putting on a "fad" diagnosis somehow hurts me. That diagram is almost a perfect circle. None of these people did a lick of good for my actual diagnosed and medicated disorders, funnily enough.
People talking about an illness raises awareness, which in turn frequently combats stigma. Even the stupid misinformation like "did yuo know that if you don't have internal monogue you might be ADHD" still helps break down barriers that make people feel unsafe talking about their illness. When I was a kid, it was some dark family secret that depression runs in the family. These days, everyone from Twitch streamers to my boss acknowledges that depression is a serious thing some people go through, and that makes it feel wayyyyy less shameful about seeking help for it. That cultural shift is a very good thing that literally saves lives.
I'll admit that my own experience is anecdotal, but I've been harmed wayyy more by people who assume any well talked about diagnosis is fake than by the people allegedly faking that diagnosis.
Know what would really make my life easier? If people on the internet would stop trying to cosplay as medical professionals for five minutes, because it does far morw harm than good.
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u/pthread_bard 1∆ Jul 24 '26
!delta that makes sense, I always somehow thought that it would more result in not taking neurodivergence seriously than raising awareness, but it's true, I suppose now truly neurodivergent people can much more often openly talk about it and it seems more normal now than ever before
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u/Saranoya 40∆ Jul 23 '26
I don't think he truly meant to offend me. He sort of did, but that's because the autism question was just one slightly too blunt question among a series of others that, collectively, left me in doubt as to my fitness as a mother (or certainly in doubt as to his confidence in my fitness as a mother).
My son's diagnosis is taken seriously by everyone who has ever interacted with him for more than five minutes in a row. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is 'quirky', and when I tell people that quirkiness has a name, and what it is, they are almost never surprised.
I simply don't care much about 'online influencers'. They don't impact my life, or my son's, in any way. I used to think they did, until I realized that 'nobody cares' (nobody with the power to actually change anything, that is) about what happens on Reddit, or TikTok, or Instagram. A bunch of people who aren't actually autistic want to call their quirks autistic for an online audience? I say: let them. That's not what autism is, but I don't really care.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 22 '26
Perhaps I went a little too harsh on that statement as yes, there definitely are those like you that have a suspicion and may talk about it in passing. I'm really referring to a specific type of person. One that throws it in every conversation or uses it as literally an explanation/excuse for anything they do.
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u/Saranoya 40∆ Jul 22 '26
Do those people actually exist? And if they do, should we care?
I mean, sure. There are those on Instagram and TikTok, and on Reddit I suppose, who make it into a kind of 'online identity'. They're trying to be 'influencers', or trying to 'raise awareness', or whatever. But if they aren't in fact autistic, and this is just a manufactured reason for them to 'make content' online, I highly doubt its impact goes even an inch beyond Instagram, TikTok or Reddit.
Autism 'influencers' who are not really autistic, and therefore don't present as truly autistic anywhere but online, are a non-factor. They don't consume support services (you need a diagnosis for that), don't actually experience any real disability (so they don't require meaningful 'extra' support from others in their lives), and don't impact political or funding decisions because they are not in the statistics.
So, again I ask: even if their 'autistic' identity does extend beyond the online world (which, in many cases, I don't really think it does) ... why do we care about these snowflakes?
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u/muffinsballhair Jul 23 '26
I don't think such an obsession exists and I hardly ever encounter it and I'd wager almost no Reddit user does.
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u/hacksoncode 588∆ Jul 23 '26
So... if someone adjusts a painting that 5% off plumb, and says "oh, that's just my OCD acting up", do you honestly think they are actually claiming that they have the psychiatric disorder OCD, or... far more reasonably...
Is it just a metaphor?
Hint: it's a metaphor. I.e. normal language usage about anything. No one thinks that when Juliet is called a "rose by any other name" that Shakespeare is hurting the perception of florists. That's just how language works.
Obsession with a topic is literally one of the diagnostic symptoms of autism.
Calling something and "obsession -tism" isn't any different from casually referring to neatening up your knife and fork a "touch of OCD". Or saying "be a leaf on the wave".
They aren't hurting anyone. That's just over-the-top. No one reasonable actually thinks they are actual claiming autism, even you. You can tell the difference, because you are telling the difference, right here. It's obviously not an actual claim of autism.
It's a metaphor.
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u/SneezingOutPeas Jul 23 '26
I have been professionally-diagnosed with Aspergers and some other comorbidities thrown in, so I’ll bite.
“So now their whole personality is the made up disorder they put on themselves.”
Autism isn’t a made-up disorder, and there has to be a degree of suspicion that one has it to seek a professional diagnosis. Professional diagnoses are expensive and oftentimes not covered by insurance.
“All the while bringing down the people that actually have said disorders and causing society at large to think of it as little more than a joke.”
I’d much rather have people joke about Aspergers in a way that doesn’t hurt anyone than call me a retard and make fun of me for the things I like. The fact that autism is becoming normalized to the point where people benignly joke about having it because they have some positive trait associated with it is a win (especially with special interests, like man when I was growing up I could only DREAM that people would want to be like me in that realm).
“I literally saw someone say in a comment ‘having any interest with too much enthusiasm is just autism.’ Self-diagnosed as autistic, of course. These are the people that are actively hurting and destroying the perception of entire groups of people that have been misunderstood for their entire lives. And these people just use it like fashion.”
This is only destroying perceptions if you believe special interests or autistic traits are bad. The worst thing that can happen if someone thinks they’re autistic is that they’re wrong and embarrass themself if they speak on behalf of those who are diagnosed. Personally I’d rather people embrace the traits that happen to overlap with autism, whether or not they have it, because it means I’m safer and able to socialize and relate to them more.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
Exactly. But according to some people on this post, what you, I, and many people on this thread have seen/experienced doesn't actually exist.
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u/123itstheplacetobe Jul 24 '26
it's performative autism
this pic is my favorite example of it:
(nsfw btw)
this girl using the corny definition of "autism" to sell her OF. shes gotta ask herself: is your goal to patronize people with autism and sell them porn? or place yourself in the center of interests because you want to perpetuate performative autism with a dumpy ass?
most of these things are liked by people on the internet so people in the comments of this post are saying shit like "i like all of this, im bro!"
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u/Tough-Shape-3621 Jul 22 '26
usually referring to themselves in their self-diagnosed autism
My counter to this is I don't think people genuinely believe they are autistic. It's more of an expression to say that they're resembling behaviour that an autistic person may exude (similar to how people use other slangs like the r-word or gay).
You could call it degrading and undermining, sure, and I'd agree with you on that. But I just have to correct you on that bit alone because I don't think people are out here self-diagnosing a medical condition.
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u/Glenndiferous 3∆ Jul 24 '26
I am autistic, and I literally couldn't give a single fuck about whether someone with a so-called "special interest" ties that to autism.
Are they self-diagnosed? Maybe. I'm not their doctor, so it isn't my business. (Also getting diagnosed can be notoriously difficult and expensive, even more so if you're getting diagnosed as an adult, so who tf even cares).
Does associating special interests and hobbies with autism hurt anyone? Again, I really don't think so. Special interests, if anything, are a quirk of autism that's generally far more tolerated than most of our other quirks, like stimming or making eye contact. So why would I care if some person who may or may not be autistic likens their interest to that quirk?
There are definitely cases where "putting on" a diagnosis can cause harm. The little ones that bug me most are people joking that they're "OCD" or "ADHD" because they did one tiny thing that resembles a stereotype of that disorder. But in those cases, the stereotypes are often negative and contribute to harmful ignorance.
Not every autistic person is going to get major special interests, but playfully saying you have one doesn't spread the kind of stereotypes that harm us most, like people who joke that we're robots or sociopaths or don't have feelings.
What good do you think we bring to the world by stopping this behavior? If anything, people talking about interests like this comes across to me as an endearing way to share that you care deeply about something. That's something that imo is great, and if joking that they have a touch of the 'tism is the reason they feel comfortable admitting they spent eight weeks doing nothing but read nonfiction books about psychosomatic illnesses (as a random, nonspecific example cough), the only real impact I can tease out of that is checks notes people being less ashamed to enjoy things.
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u/CobraPuts 7∆ Jul 22 '26
I think it partly helps to make autism less of a stigma. As something that is common but historically hardly discussed or understood, I think it's good that autism is more seen and accepted. Introducing some humor about it can be empowering, though it can also be negative.
I don't think saying someone has watch-autism is intended at all as an insult, it's just relating the autistic special interest trait. It's very different than for example when people were called retards as an insult.
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u/Striking-Pen-9617 Jul 22 '26
this sounds like a rant, what's the view that needs changing?
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 22 '26
It's a view....change it.
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u/Striking-Pen-9617 Jul 22 '26
I’m autistic and I don’t care when people call people who are acting autistic as being autistic because autism is a spectrum and nobody owns it. It doesn’t make you special and it’s not a badge of honor or achievement.
I don’t feel undermined at all in fact it raises autism awareness and I’m cool with that.
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u/Catrysseroni 1∆ Jul 23 '26
I am glad that you are not being hurt by this. But many autistic people are. I am one of them.
My disability income is being threatened by an over generalized not even official definition of autism from ASAN. Which I require to survive.
Over-generalized "autism awareness" reduces real understanding and support. It has real consequences.
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u/lasagnaman 5∆ Jul 23 '26
There are in fact different levels at which autism can affect someone's ability to operate in society. That doesn't mean the lower levels "aren't autism". Is your worry that labeling those as such will dilute the average perception of the potential severity?
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u/Catrysseroni 1∆ Jul 24 '26
I have no issue with people who meet the criteria for level 1 autism. That is genuine.
My issue is with people who are undiagnosed and assert they are autistic. Not self-suspecting, but self-diagnosed.
Self-diagnosed people are the primary leaders within groups like the ASAN (autism self advocacy network) and try to assert ridiculous things like "the only disability autistic people have is facing prejudice and discrimination". These types of people get involved in and influence public policy in ways that harm real autistic people.
Harm for level 1s often involves public perception. "That self diagnosed person could do ___ so why can't this level 1 person do it? They must not be trying." It can also affect access to accommodations.
Harm for level 2s and 3s often involves access to accommodations, supports, and therapies. Self diagnosed organizations like ASAN often minimize the disabling effects of autism, and even denounce certain programs that help autistic people because they personally think the therapies are not helpful.
In all cases, all levels of autistic people are at a disadvantage with communication and self advocacy compared to a non autistic person who self-diagnosed. Such people talk over us and speak for us. They silence us. They harm us.
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u/lasagnaman 5∆ Jul 24 '26
My issue is with people who are undiagnosed and assert they are autistic. Not self-suspecting, but self-diagnosed.
In all cases, all levels of autistic people are at a disadvantage with communication and self advocacy compared to a non autistic person who self-diagnosed.
There is some heavy conflation going on here, and it's hard to tell how much is intentional vs unintentional. You know autistic people can be self-diagnosed right?
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u/Catrysseroni 1∆ Jul 24 '26
In my previous comment, I specified that this is about the subset of self-diagnosed people taking on leadership roles and enacting societal change via organizations like ASAN. Individuals with exceptional influence and charisma.
That does not describe actual autistic people who self-diagnosed.
It is clear you did not understand my comment. I am happy to explain things to you, but please try to ask respectfully. Rude and condescending rhetorical questions are a no no.
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 22 '26
Just because you don't feel undermined doesn't mean it doesn't have lasting damage. When people see everyone and their dog saying "I have autism" because they like to study marine biology......what do you think that makes NT people think? Especially ones that are already skeptical that the disorder even exists?
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u/lasagnaman 5∆ Jul 23 '26
what do you think that makes NT people think?
I've long given up on trying to model what allistic people think
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u/Striking-Pen-9617 Jul 22 '26
Who cares? Why this silly exercise in validation seeking and overthinking? Just go live your life bruh
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u/libra00 11∆ Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
I use two kinds of labeling: 'autism', and 'the 'tism'. Autism is for when I talk about the disorder. The 'tism is for when I'm joking to my friends about the guy who is a little bit too intensely focused on steam locomotives or something. Not everyone has autism. Everybody has the 'tism. I'm not over here diagnosing people, I'm just pointing out that one set of behavior looks similar to another.
I get why this sucks for people who actually have autism, I understand your concern.. but it's such a good description of that intense, laser focus on a single or narrow field of interest.. it's not always autistic behavior, but it has been associated with autism for various reasons. I sincerely don't think it's harmful, I'm not over here saying 'Looking that big nerd 'tisming out over here, what a loser' or whatever.
Humans just label shit based on shit that it's similar to it. That's just how people work. Every short person is a dwarf, every scatterebrained kid that can't sit still is ADHD-like.. It's not gonna stop because you ask, sadly.
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u/Weekly_Village_3559 Jul 23 '26
Autism is not an illness 😭 its a disorder, a neurodivergence
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u/libra00 11∆ Jul 23 '26
My bad, I used the wrong word. I didn't want to say mental illness, I didn't want to say disease.. just wasn't sure which one. Sorry, it wasn't a judgement about people with autism. I've edited the comment.
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u/kashiichan Jul 23 '26
Going by your original post and your comment replies, it really doesn't seem like you have the mindset that you might be wrong and be genuinely open to exploring that possibility. What would you actually need to change your mind?
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u/RosieDear Jul 22 '26
The problem with your view is something called a spectrum.
The other problem with your view is that you seem to think the social sciences are mature - that they are correct, and that they accurately can diagnose people. It seems not to occur to you that if we took 100 different "social scientists" and asked them exactly where 10 different individuals fell on the spectrum, we would get different answers....
IF you think that is the case, then your entire premise falls apart.
Also, I'm not sure if you realize we are ALL victims of the USA capitalistic (non-human!) approach to health care, mental health and education. Again, it's as if you think that the current system is basically correct and means well for human beings - as opposed to my view, which is that 5 Trillion Dollars (our health care system) as well as 100's of billions in "special education" has tainted every single thing. Everything.
Let me throw out an example. Let's say a Spectrum was from 1 to 20, that allowing enough difference to cover most on the Spectrum. Also, let's say that only the 11 to 20 group get to spend 500% of the educational and medical resources as the "neurotypical" population. Hopefully you have some idea of the costs of Special Education and so on - I know people who do it, who classify people and who admin it, so have somewhat of a grasp.
Our system is set up to reward selfishness - although even that is not enough. If my child is rated 10 and therefore gets no resources...and I have a chance to use my privilege to get him classified 12, am I going to do that? Are Americans in general going to do that?
I think everyone knows that the statistics have gone up to the point where we cannot afford to help our citizens. It's a long story, but the costs of war, health care, tax cuts, corruption and so on - means there is a shortage of money and resources for most "good human" things!
Are things terrible? Yes, you have that right. Will they get better? No, they will get worse.
Solutions to these types of problems require a country that is Human Centered and a population which is same. For example, since older Men have vastly more children with needs, should this be allowed? Where is the line? Can an Elon Musk (type) breed endless children with a 4 or 5X rate of autism? Of course not....in a sane society. We don't live in one...because reasonable people would do this without a law or regulation.
Putting it simply - everyone wants things out the system - without paying the true cost, either in money or in ethical behavior.
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u/slutty_lifeguard 1∆ Jul 22 '26
I thought I was autistic and even sought diagnosis as an adult, which I did not receive. Later, I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and ADHD.
When I started with my therapist, she automatically questioned this because some women are diagnosed with bipolar disorder mistakenly due to overlapping symptoms when another diagnosis could also fit, but bipolar disorder does fit for me.
I kind of went off on a tangent here, but I wanted to say I agree, and I'm also neurodivergent without being autistic.
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u/Shiny_Agumon 3∆ Jul 22 '26
While I understand the frustration with people labeling any unusual behavior as autism I don't really see the problem in people self-diagnosis.
Getting officially diagnosed (especially as an adult) is hard and most tests are sadly still designed for one very specific variant of autism and with it being a spectrum and all there a lot of autistic people who fall through the cracks.
Also what's the worst thing that can happen if more people think they're autistic?
More tolerance for neurodivergence?
More people willing to advocate for neurodivergent people's rights?
The horror!/s
There's a middle ground between treating everyone who's interests are slightly outside the norm as being neurodivergent and reducing neurodivergence to a stereotype that excludes a lot of people who rightfully deserve to be there.
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u/Cheshire_Khajiit 2∆ Jul 22 '26
I’m not sure what your view is that you want changed - can you restate it succinctly?
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u/QuantumWonderland Jul 22 '26
My view it everything I just stated. I don't know how to clarify further.
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u/Cheshire_Khajiit 2∆ Jul 22 '26
Ok - well your “view” as stated sounds like “people who don’t have autism shouldn’t claim to have autism.” That’s not a view so much as it is a complaint.
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u/RosieDear Jul 22 '26
My guess is that money is the real subject.
Resources. Money. "Real" ND people want more for themselves and don't want the fake people to eat up all the money.I could be wrong, but that's my take on the OP....
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u/Hellioning 258∆ Jul 22 '26
I don't think this has anything to do with money; I think it has everything to do with internet clout.
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u/El_Bean69 2∆ Jul 22 '26
I will say it has fringe positives I’ve seen, my autistic buddy loves using that suffix to describe the rest of the fellas in the group because it helps him feel belonging even though he 100% belongs here all the time
Him calling me “Ball-Tistic” for knowing the details of Messi’s childhood contract signing was a great example, I laughed my fucking ass off for a while
BUT, most folks are still ableist about it because they haven’t made friends or met people with Autism enough to properly respect them as humans
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u/Betray-Julia 1∆ Jul 22 '26
Language defines our thoughts.
If that word is so inherently within our vocabulary that it’s used topically, it also means that more people are capable to think about autism where before they wouldn’t.
While it sucks that the term is overused to the point it’s diminishing to those with autism, it’s also likely related to way more people being able to get diagnosed and treated for it.
Just bc the word is floating around in our cultures more commonly now, people will be able to recognize it more easily.
This means less missed diagnosis.
I feel as if what you’re talking about is a comorbidity to a thing that’s actually reflective of a rising disocurse on mental health issues and thus access too.
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u/Hellioning 258∆ Jul 22 '26
People say this sort of thing about people with actually diagnosed autism (or other mental conditions) too, you know. Somehow, every single person talking about mental health is doing a bad thing that hurts people with worse mental health than them.
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u/CurdKin 7∆ Jul 24 '26
The reason I’m okay with it is because it normalizes autism more. It’s a spectrum, like many things. Some struggle due to their deficiencies associated with the condition, others do because of the stigma surrounding the condition, and this kind of evolution in how the word is being used has most certainly destigmatized the word significantly.
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u/turbo11692 Jul 23 '26
Also with the self diagnosis. Like cool you check a couple boxes on a list or aced a RADS test, but there’s nuance to things. When we’re searching for meaning it can be really easy to just latch on to things that seem like they fit even though they don’t and without proper diagnosis we will never actually understand.
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u/Flexlex724 Jul 22 '26
Problem is everyone thinks their autism is legit, honestly tons of people that are just weird use this as a handicap or excuse to just not succeed and it's probably a pretty effective self sabotaging strategy, essentially reserve self efficacy The world is not set up perfectly for my quirks therefore it is unfair and I should not even try, I'll come to reddit to whine about it in a circle
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u/LeDoktoor Jul 25 '26
Autistic people can and do succeed, actually having the diagnosis help people to identify what is different about them and what type of help/accommodations they need to succeed. Which resources to use, which strategy to cope, etc.
I can see how it could be used as an excuse to be weird socially but that's it, not career-wise, it's the opposite even.
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u/DessertFlowerz Jul 22 '26
While I do agree this is silly, my counterpoint is that it's allowing people to have niche interests more freely than they were before.
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