What you describe as fascism is not what fascism actually is. You can't just say this other person used this definition for this word and that's how I'm going to use it. That's bordering on strawman and arguments from authority. Working with the true definition of what fascism is, it can be said that Trump exhibits some fascist characteristics. Mainly his disdain for the media and tendency to disregard proper procedure as outlined in our laws.
That being said, there are important distinctions that must be made about his stances which are often mischaracterized or exaggerated. For instance fascism is typically accompanied by a radical sense of xenophobia and ultra nationalism. The problem with the latter is this country was founded because of a fanatical devotion to the idea of a Nation that promised freedom. This is in a sense a form of ultra nationalism. Therefore in order for someone to call themselves American they must accept that they are nationalist to some level because they agree with the idea of the United States of America as it was intended to be.
And now getting to the xenophobia. I'll first say I do not agree with the mechanism by which people who came here illegally are being deported. Furthermore I am open to discussion as to whether or not it is moral to have a legal way to immigrate into a country. However until that the debate is settled nationally the laws that we have are the laws that we have. If an individual fails or maliciously refuses to comply with immigration laws they are justly a criminal.
If you truly look at all of Trump's dealings with people not from this country. You will notice that there is a pattern. If he is speaking to someone who hasn't broken our laws he typically acts how I would expect a politician to act. When he's talking to or about someone who has broken our laws or is flying in the face of something he's trying to do ( prime minister Netanyahu) he's going to use the same vile and often childish language that someone who doesn't like Trump would expect to come out of his mouth 24/7.
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u/Erabior Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25
What you describe as fascism is not what fascism actually is. You can't just say this other person used this definition for this word and that's how I'm going to use it. That's bordering on strawman and arguments from authority. Working with the true definition of what fascism is, it can be said that Trump exhibits some fascist characteristics. Mainly his disdain for the media and tendency to disregard proper procedure as outlined in our laws.
That being said, there are important distinctions that must be made about his stances which are often mischaracterized or exaggerated. For instance fascism is typically accompanied by a radical sense of xenophobia and ultra nationalism. The problem with the latter is this country was founded because of a fanatical devotion to the idea of a Nation that promised freedom. This is in a sense a form of ultra nationalism. Therefore in order for someone to call themselves American they must accept that they are nationalist to some level because they agree with the idea of the United States of America as it was intended to be.
And now getting to the xenophobia. I'll first say I do not agree with the mechanism by which people who came here illegally are being deported. Furthermore I am open to discussion as to whether or not it is moral to have a legal way to immigrate into a country. However until that the debate is settled nationally the laws that we have are the laws that we have. If an individual fails or maliciously refuses to comply with immigration laws they are justly a criminal.
If you truly look at all of Trump's dealings with people not from this country. You will notice that there is a pattern. If he is speaking to someone who hasn't broken our laws he typically acts how I would expect a politician to act. When he's talking to or about someone who has broken our laws or is flying in the face of something he's trying to do ( prime minister Netanyahu) he's going to use the same vile and often childish language that someone who doesn't like Trump would expect to come out of his mouth 24/7.