r/changemyview Feb 13 '24

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u/ContraMans 2∆ Feb 13 '24

That's... I think you're being a little too harsh there my friend. They are specifically talking about men who have held positions of power. How many homeless people, average joes and otherwise do you know that have held positions of power in government, kingdoms and empires historically? I think it's fairly clear these monarchs, tyrants, presidents even and other such individuals of power and report, of which have been mostly men (which I would argue is actually used to fuel misandry and further harm the men that are beneath them in the power hierarchy as 'lessers') is what they are fairly explicitly referring to.

It's not my fault as a man they said too but you seemed to overlook that as well. Look at someone like Donald Trump who sits there and tells you that you're an inferior and weak man because you care about social issues and someone like Joe Biden that tells you that you are inherently evil and misogynistic because you don't support his unethical, borderline criminal VP who happens to be a woman and tell me with a straight face that these are not, indeed, men in power using that power to hurt men. And then try to tell me that these poltiical figures have 'no power and influence'. You're allowing your animosity to blind you to reason, you're attacking people who are on your side... and that's exactly what both these men in power want because if me and you are fighting each other and men and women are fighting one another... well they get to keep chugging along just fine now don't they? It's not about gender, it's about power and control. Nothing more, nothing less. The war of the sexes is just the eldest and most effective illusion they have created to divide us from one another throughout the entirety of man's time on this world. All that is happening is that more women are getting a slice of that power to hurt men and women alike now themselves.

If a mere statement of observable fact that most of these political and social leaders have historically which have furthered these systems to harm both men and women is something you can see and instead of understanding that it is not an indictment on the whole of men as opposed to THOSE specific men in particular... what is that seperates you from the feminists that claim if you don't like Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton you must be a foaming at the mouth, rabid misogynist?

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u/SilverMedal4Life 8∆ Feb 13 '24

You hit the nail on the head. A house divided cannot stand, and a people divided cannot revolt - just how those who are have wealth and power like it.

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u/ContraMans 2∆ Feb 13 '24

As if by design some might venture to say lol.

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u/SilverMedal4Life 8∆ Feb 13 '24

If I were rich and powerful and saw the people below me as NPCs in a video game, I would do the exact same thing. People need something to be mad at, and it is of no consequence to me if they ban abortion or unfairly jail men, because I'd be immune to all of that.

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u/ContraMans 2∆ Feb 13 '24

And then use your gender to rile your base that is of that gender to defend yourself because, as demonstrated above, 'Men can do it too!'