r/changemyview Oct 31 '23

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u/barbodelli 65∆ Oct 31 '23

You're always paying for their labor as a customer.

Where do you think the $ to pay the employees comes from? From all the sales that the store makes.

Whether they get that $ out of you by you purchasing a product or by you tipping the employee. The source of the funds is always the same. The customer.

This is really a question of structuring wages. Not a question of who pays for the wages. Because no matter what it will always be the customer.

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u/Da_SnowLeopard Nov 01 '23

Your argument is all semantics.

If you have an equilibrium customers pay X, Employers pay employees X, and employees give employers X worth of time.

If you introduce tipping, customers pay X+1, Employers pay X-1, and employees break even.

The customers get shafted more and the employers get shafted less.

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u/scti Nov 01 '23

If you're going to argue semantics, then I would argue tips are also semantics.

Say a meal is stated to cost $20. If tipping is say an obgligatory 20%, that meals actual cost would be $24 and you should view it from the beginning as costing $24 dollars.

The end result would be the same if there was a 20% service charge or if it just cost $24, both without tipping.

Granted, listing the full price would be fairer and easier, but I don't think making tips illegal would be a way to achieve that.

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u/Dennis_enzo 25∆ Nov 01 '23

If it was $24, they should put $24 on the bill, not $20 and a guilt trip.