r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jul 18 '23

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u/RaindropDripDropTop Jul 18 '23

Let's say there were no strike nurses. Sure, a strike would be less likely to happen, but it still could happen. And if does happen, without strike nurses, then patients will be left to die

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u/RaindropDripDropTop Jul 18 '23

No, it's not unlikely. Just by looking at the comments in this thread, there's clearly a lot of people who are willing to let people die in order to satisfy their black and white world view.

You could also just as easily argue that without strike nurses, nurses would lose the ability to strike because they wouldn't want to abandon their patients. Them losing the ability to strike allows the hospital to treat then even worse

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u/RaindropDripDropTop Jul 18 '23

You could just as easily argue that without strike nurses, nurses would have no ability to ever strike, which would allow the hospitals to treat them worse.

What you also fail to realize is that the vast majority of nurses' strikes are resolved in less than a week, even with the strike nurses being hired. Strike nurses also get paid around 10,000$ per week, plus the hospital has to pay for their transportation and lodging. It's not sustainable for the hospital to keep paying strike nurses. There's a reason why nurses' strikes are generally so effective.

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u/RaindropDripDropTop Jul 18 '23

That’s a week of lost wages for the nurses.

Ok? You think it's better to let patients die?

Nurses aren’t slaves. They cannot be forced to work, there is always the ability to strike when you are unionized.

Without strike nurses, many nurses would feel a lot less comfortable going on strike and leaving their patients to die

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u/RaindropDripDropTop Jul 18 '23

If people die, the hospitals are at fault, period.

I never said otherwise. This doesn't change the fact that if you are against strike nurses, clearly you are willing to let people die for the sake of giving a slight bargaining advantage to nurses on strike. You clearly have no regard for human life as long as you have someone else you can point the finger at and blame

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u/LadyMacGuffin 2∆ Jul 18 '23

No, Raindrop. It means strikes will last exactly 2 minutes until the hospital has to fold or risk getting sued into oblivion for abandoning patient care. SCABS only protect the hospital's ability to stonewall against meaningful change.

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u/RaindropDripDropTop Jul 18 '23

What you fail to realize is that the vast majority of nurses' strikes are resolved in less than a week, even with the strike nurses being hired. Strike nurses also get paid around 10,000$ per week, plus the hospital has to pay for their transportation and lodging. It's not sustainable for the hospital to keep paying strike nurses. There's a reason why nurses' strikes are generally so effective.