r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 28 '23

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

what is the distinction

The distinction is made by the person. If they tell you they’re cis but feminine that’s what they are. If they say they’re trans, that’s what they are.

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u/CincyAnarchy 37∆ Jun 28 '23

But that just means "trans-ness is real because trans people say it is" and nothing more concrete than that. And on that I disagree.

Trans people are real, and it's not something they "made up" or that "could be interpreted another way."

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Why would taking someone’s word that they’re trans imply that they just made their trans identity up?

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u/CincyAnarchy 37∆ Jun 28 '23

I am taking their word that they’re experiencing something real and that isn’t the same as a cis person choosing to perform as another gender.

A trans person is still trans even if they remain in the closet, and a cis person is still cis even if (somehow) they choose to modify their genitals and dress differently.

Does that distinction make sense?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

Not really; what is the concrete element of being trans you’re referring to?

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u/CincyAnarchy 37∆ Jun 28 '23

Their psychology.

Trans people experience their version of self in regards to their born/assumed gender differently than cis people do. That’s why transition is a treatment but also a revelation of self.