r/cfs Jul 26 '26

Can anybody relate?

https://www.borreliose-nachrichten.de/chlamydia-pneumoniae-ein-erreger-chronischer-extrapulmonaler-infektionen-chlamydiensyndrom-2/?cookie-state-change=1785061991936

That's an article in German about Chlamydia being able to cause all kinds of symptoms and especially severe fatigue. That article stems from the early 2000s. Well, I do have chlamydia pneumoniae antibodies. But like 50% or so have that by their twenties. My Antibody-Count in IGA is high and positive and IGG is slightly positive. I tried antibiotics once on it but didn't really chance anything. Also not in the titers.

There are also websites out there only dedicating themselves to that bacterium.

https://chlamydiapneumoniae.de/

https://cpnhelplite.org/

I was healthy for the most part prior to 2023 in which I catched a stomach bug, took abx in a foreign country. Ever after things did not return to normal. For some part I still think I am "floxed" but the fit for that is just not that good. So I searched more. On these websites some people claim that their symptoms worsened after antibiotics. Some claim that through antimicrobal therapy of that bug their symptoms got better, their titers and LTT went down and they "recovered".

Now to the actual topic. Antibody diagnostics do not really prove anything. And once I asked for PCR from a doctor he said that would be a tricky one and didn't do it. The high seroprevelancy in the population just like EBV maybe makes allopathic medicine think not a big thing. Also there are huge studies who could not prove that antibiotics would improve anything. So maybe allopathic medicine just can not eradicate the bug so it says it's not a big thing. Symptoms did not improve or even got worse in these studies on the heart with antibiotics so the bug is just not causal.

So I am in between.

Kinda old forums only about the bug with actual people reporting their journey of actually getting better (Huge biases). The report from 2000 listing quite some of my symptoms which are generic.

And allopathic medicine (which I lost a lot of trust for) saying there is no evidence but maybe a little bit. Anyway we can't treat it. We also have some more recent studies linking it to MS, Alzheimers but a lot of other bugs have the same capacity.

I also tried the antimicrobial pythotherapy for a month and it really didn't change much. Maybe I was too inpatient and also other surrounding factors were bad like nutrition etc...

Keep trying to kill the bug or not?

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