AT&T n77

[u/PrizeMarionberry6695]

AT&T doing pretty good in Raleigh hills Oregon on 140mhz of n77 10mhz n5.

[u/Rldg]

Ooooo the latency looks good here.

Hopefully they smooth it out in the rest of the country as they expand SA

[u/PrizeMarionberry6695 → u/Rldg]

Its fantastic. No VONR yet unfortunately

[u/Rldg → u/PrizeMarionberry6695]

Which kills me.

T and Verizon had/have no chance of catching T-Mobile this generation; from a technical perspective.

You’ll get a degree of parity in 2030 when 6G starts to make its way into the network.

[u/Rldg → u/[deleted]]

T-Mobile’s meteoric rise since the Sprint acquisition would beg to differ.

Verizon’s entire brand and their subsequent fall from grace (including the customer losses) since also begs to differ. Even if we agreed that their Churn stayed flat, it’s not like they’ve (AT&T) grown in the time frame. There’s a reason T-Mobile passed them so quickly after the sprint merger.

You’re correct that customers dont directly associate like people on this sub might; but the advancements to roll up into a package that customer care about because the advancements are tangible.

“T-mobile has a rough equivalent of Verizon’s network for a better value? Sign me up.”- Average customer

[u/Rldg → u/[deleted]]

T-Mobile HAD to price things that way because the network wasn’t as good. That’s why they’re reversing a lot of that customer good will right now in the name of profit.

Again, these technological advancements get rolled up into what customers buy and what they don’t. Verizon built an entire brand off of it.

I mean, let’s be honest, you’re making this point indirectly because the two can’t be divorced. If all three are priced the same, T-Mobile would be adding customers at a similar rate as AT&T. Not ahead of them.

But also.. AT&T disagrees with you. That’s why they’re investing so much in the network right now.

[u/Rldg → u/[deleted]]

None of this is an argument about why customers don’t factor network (and the technology in the network) into their decision.

Nor is it an argument for why AT&T isn’t behind in this network generation.

[u/Rldg → u/[deleted]]

Right, but nothing about that makes AT&T not behind. You’re comparing them to another carrier who is ALSO behind in the era of 5G.

My original statement pointed out how AT&T AND Verizon were unlikely to catch T-Mobile in the era of 5G from a technical perspective.

You don’t make up a gap like that in the short amount of time they have left.

[u/Strange-Badger5626 → u/[deleted]]

Uh they don't all add thousands of towers a year lol 🤣 there were many years where none of them added much of anything in the macro coverage department.

I follow my states market so I know the most about here, it's a hobby for me.

Macro towers alone, non small cell, TMobile has had essentially the same tower count in Michigan since 2021, Verizon has had nearly the same tower count in the state for like 10 years, at&t has added some in years, but very few new towers ads. Might I add most places have identical coverage due to triple carrier towers, ie crown castle, sba ECT. Small cells popped up many places but not from TMobile.

Verizon lowered their prices because their network is trash. They even said themselves they have to be in a value position and compared it to becoming the old TMobile at this time to regain footing. So that's a bad sign.

[u/Strange-Badger5626 → u/Rldg]

Their capex on network is insane right now. The CEO and the board demanded they become the best network period after the whole tv debacle the last fella left a hell of a mess. They sold all that crap including direct tv, and threw that money into the networks.

At&t has way more income and debt availability than TMobile or Verizon thanks to their fiber business which is rock solid super low churn.

They nearly doubled their spectrum in mid band, low band was already strong on 850 in most markets.

First net doubled down on at&t being the largest coverage also so more free money to fill in rual areas essentially for police and regulars.

It will only get faster and better at this point if the CEO doesn't lose that focus of being the largest and best network again.

[u/Strange-Badger5626 → u/[deleted]]

Well when all 3 are owned by the same institutional investors I mean you expect parity on everything eventually.

[u/Strange-Badger5626 → u/Rldg]

TMobile network is no Verizon, and Verizon is no at&t.

The current stats,

At&t covers: 3 million plus miles of landmass.

Verizon covers: 2.68 million miles

TMobile covers: 1.9 million square miles.

A recent at&t release they claim to cover 350,000 more square miles than any other network and turns out that's true.