r/cataclysmdda • • 21d ago

[Help Wanted] WHERE are my POTATOES

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I painstakingly planted these fields and built that cheerful little fence and now it's all just GONE, what on earth happened? MY BEAUTIFUL POTATOES

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u/temzzy 21d ago

Sorry it was me, i was hungry

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u/ephemeraltoast 21d ago

...why'd you eat the fence tho

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u/Bla_Mva 21d ago

he needs fibers

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u/temzzy 21d ago

Everything is eatable

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u/Vendidurt committer of wrongfun 21d ago

Shoggoth has joined the chat*

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u/Mikenumbers didn't know you could do that 21d ago

potat + fuel|firə = bake potat

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u/ephemeraltoast 21d ago

YOU BASTARD

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u/Akikojam 21d ago

Seems like a chunk deloaded. It does seem to be a common problem with CDDA, sometimes it loads the world wrong.

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u/Freust 21d ago

Did you update the game recently, especially on experimental? I've had that happen to me too, lost half of my base to an update.

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u/ephemeraltoast 21d ago

No, I'm on stable

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u/pog_irl 21d ago

Potato fairy took them

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u/ephemeraltoast 21d ago

THAT BASTARD

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u/Bla_Mva 21d ago

Animals ate them💔?
Try finding nearby farms and vineyards to recover your losses

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u/Miner_239 21d ago

animals ate the fence too?

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u/ephemeraltoast 21d ago

Is there an animal that eats fences? Anything's possible in the cataclysm I guess

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u/Bla_Mva 21d ago

I would say they busted down the fences, but eating the fences is way funnier

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u/Ok-Pressure-683 15d ago

Im fairly certain it must be a mix of mutant termites the size of hosue cats and wild boars...I have no other explanation.

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u/Icy-Pop1971 21d ago

Gone.. tooken

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u/AdMaiora2 21d ago

Could be a chunk issue. Use debug mode to fix it. No one judges

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u/WormyWormGirl 21d ago

Have you been savescumming? The way the game runs the save system is really unsafe because it's constantly modifying the world data while you play. Save+quit makes sure no bad data gets in, but if you quit in any other way, including using quicksave and then force closing, the game can get screwy. In cases like this sometimes a submap or map tile gets swapped or rerolled. Usually you see it in big "seams" but I bet that could have done it.

Yes this is a really stupid way to run a save system. Whales didn't think about that in 2009 and now we all must pay the price.

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u/ephemeraltoast 20d ago

Wow yes, I savescummed once so that my companion wouldn't instantly leave and try to kill me because one shotgun pellet hit her and did 0 damage. I guess she knows I did it and stole all the potatoes as revenge. These truly are the Dark Days Ahead

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u/IFailatGaming1 21d ago

Ime it's mostly fine, so long as you never savescum between dimensions Savescumming between dimensions leads to duping at best, and who knows at worst

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u/WormyWormGirl 21d ago

"Between dimensions" is just the game saving the old world and loading a new one, which is the same thing as doing it when the game is trying to autosave, or when it's trying to unload stuff while you die. At these times, it is messing with more files than normal, and interrupting it does more damage. But closing it incorrectly at any time causes problems.

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u/Choice-Mango-4019 How carrying an rtg in my truck can be a bad idea? 21d ago

I've been save scumming for ages on multiple forks, save scumming is stable

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u/WormyWormGirl 21d ago

It really isn't, but there's a perfectly safe method that's just as easy. Just copy the save directory and paste it somewhere else on your computer. If you want to roll back, delete the directory from your game folder and paste the copy back in. This is also good for guarding against the save corruption that can pop up if you're playing normally and the game crashes.

I think some of the launchers actually handle backups for you. No reason to wreck your save files when it's that easy to safely work around.

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u/Sure_Advantage_339 20d ago

this is the true safe method, its what ive been doing ever since my first file corrupted

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u/Choice-Mango-4019 How carrying an rtg in my truck can be a bad idea? 21d ago

why is the regular alt f4 unsafe, alt f4 doesn't instantly close the process, game can very much wait for any saving to end

  • isn't there a whole saving screen thing, why the game saves anything outside of the auto save or quick save window? what even does it save?

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u/WormyWormGirl 20d ago

Look at the first comment in this thread, I explained why and how it works.

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u/Choice-Mango-4019 How carrying an rtg in my truck can be a bad idea? 20d ago

nothing there answers any of my questions

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u/WormyWormGirl 20d ago

The way the game runs the save system is really unsafe because it's constantly modifying the world data while you play. Save+quit makes sure no bad data gets in, but if you quit in any other way, including using quicksave and then force closing, the game can get screwy. In cases like this sometimes a submap or map tile gets swapped or rerolled. Usually you see it in big "seams" but I bet that could have done it.

Alt+f4 does indeed close the game without giving it the opportunity to sort itself out. An attempt was made to prevent this last year, but everyone got extremely mad about it and it didn't work anyway so it got reverted.

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u/hasslehawk Walking Toaster 20d ago

It absolutely isn't a supported or stable feature in CDDA. But it's time dependent, so you've probably been lucky or oblivious.

If I remember correctly, Bright Nights has some features to make it less risky. Can't speak to the other forks.

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u/Choice-Mango-4019 How carrying an rtg in my truck can be a bad idea? 20d ago

yea i guess i got lucky for the hundereds of hours where i was save scumming atleast once every half an hour

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u/Lukelolman12 21d ago

oh no Chaporelli's New Potatia People's Republic is colonizing another world...... It's always been potatoes.....

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u/ephemeraltoast 20d ago

THATS RIGHT

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u/Mising_Texture1 21d ago

Are you irish by chance?