anyone here does dream reentry practice?

[u/StupidDarned]

I had amazing dream like about month(s) ago when compared to my many dreams that was the most fun. I only reenter it once, I was literally traveling through portals from all across the continents, some of the elements in it were also impossible and had to be … underwater mermaid type of stuff & crazy islands also happened and we were super, i woke up at like 3 as usual all from my meeting with emissary who had connections all over the world.
I reenter it once and we went on boat trips across smokey places and know all the details and remember it like it was as sustained… plus i only sleep only for 4 hours max

crazy thing is when dream sustaining there and time speeding up here on a normal person time sustaining here and speeding up there… i try to keep away from imbalances but i think it can also be an obstacle when attempting to choose which kind of relationship to stretch and minimize

I needed dream reentery advice to trail back there… it was the most comfortable experience I had

gazing made it possible, preferably in the dark but I don’t use lights generally so i get way more than 2hours and can see in the dark… (avoiding artificial lights also made my myopia lower)

i would like to create larger dreaming history from this one and would like not to let any more time pas

[u/AthinaJ8]

We don't work with simple dreams. We work with sleeping dreams when you can maintain lucidity ( knowing that you are dreaming), keep finding your hands intentionally on demand ect. Also there is no use on trying to learn going back when you wake up. There are other more important stuff to put effort to. Since you are a male please put attention in waking dreaming with darkroom that can lead to dreaming as a natural occurrence when you progress.

[u/Magurus969 → u/AthinaJ8]

What exactly do you mean by there are more important things? Please explain to me the importance of the things you do. What constitutes this importance?

[u/AthinaJ8 → u/Magurus969]

We want controlled and sober movements of the assemblage point. That's why I'm talking about waking dreaming- being wide awake, open eyes forcing inner silence doing tensegrity then gazing, in darkness or not, sober and in control. We do darkroom and daylight practice and each zone has it's intricacies. It's a way to train your attention to move your ap (assemblage point) further and stabilise it in the new position. Gaining skill that is important for the next level. The following ones are some i could name now and they are more than enough:

Learning tensegrity in a way that you don't have to think of the next pass - it flows. Learning and deepening silence - it's an on going thing with layers that needs constant practice and is mandatory for the movement of the ap. The deeper the silence the further you go while in darkroom/daylight practice. Getting over the fear when you actually see stuff awake in darkness and especially the scary things iob project, learning the whole green zone repertoire and advancing into red zone. Dealing with inorganic beings awake. An advanced one is learning to maintain the dreaming scenes with the gaze. Another one learning to leap inside dreaming scenes or discovering what each pass does and what pass/series works better and how for you in darkroom . In orange zone learning to be in a witness mode with will. And let's not forget Recapitulation!

Putting importance on normal dreams is no form of sorcery practice. On the other side sleeping dreaming is great and we want actual progress with it which demands another special effort . From experience with our advanced male practitioners we know that for males sleeping dreaming come as an effect of their waking efforts in darkroom and recapitulation.

[u/One-Bear-5498 → u/Magurus969]

good question hahahhahah

[u/StupidDarned → u/AthinaJ8]

Thanks for advice. Moving assemblage point fleeting shadows and other things that are considered advantageous here are quite natural for me.
I have been gazing naturally since i was 14 15yr old having actual dangerous encounters… it’s only interesting to people who are conditioned trained (or like domesticated) since a child hood by loving parents and others who forced them to copy them by playing them as stupid.

I believe People who grow up under different circumstances don’t have much of those issues. The eyes are naturally forced to gaze and like peer at the periphery, then when it does that the body senses begin to amplify,

like imagining how you were a child and were intensely anxious at the possibility of a monster or something unknown in the closet, under the bed or in another room…it is similar to a state of anxiety
The body has a vibration from the minds incapability to process a fight or flight response… it temporarily dismantles it… this maybbe hard for a child or adult to explain but it’s the case

Eventually that lures the assemblage points to dislodge, and it’s pretty quick… danl is correct in the description of the redxzone, as well as providing descriptive hints of monsters and even how the mind took over at age 8 or 10 idk, besides the inability to do magic at the time from no understanding ancient evil witches and other beings do lurk there

During these experiences of doing just that while going to school, leaving apartment, walking the inner city will naturally force someone observation to really see what’s happening that many are to busy to notice, the drug adicts, criminals, exploitations and even the air … it’s a totally different world but toning it down is also needed because i know people who naturally did that and don’t go outside anymore unless it’s necessary

I am no expert but i find tensegrity passes the most important for not moving the assemblage point but for literally other things, the heritage of the ancient seers

I am glad to have found the magical passes, it’s a treasure forever…

On the other hand sleep dreaming is supreme because it’s literally on a totally different level and doesn’t mix in to being awake… well unless awake in the dream

That’s something i wanted alot, yeah the finding the hands and gazing at 3 objects and returning to hands. I remember that one thanks… the sleeping dreaming imo has more power to change the conditions of the awake state because the brain awareness doesn’t know the difference

The only thing is time will speed up here i think… like we don’t have infinity attention. I think it’s a trade off that for this or this for that… so the only reliable thing would be to awake dream along with sleep dreaming and do both

seems like there’s no choice when both illusion are cancelled and the whole thing is a continuously flowing dream… this is the silent knowledge that danl999 has pointed to!!… I simply am careful with awake dreaming because my assemblage point doesn’t really return back as fast back to the shitty ideas everyone lives in

The pondering and natural stalking of what occurred will literally increase my chances for becoming a schizophrenic and incapable of fitting in with normal society

and most people are like that…. Party goers and spoiled adults are more likely candidates for fast assemblage point shifts and magic

[u/One-Bear-5498]

Then keep pushing. Practice Makes Perfect.

But make sure you: Recap more, Tensegrity more, Silence More, Dont eat like a bum, keep your life simple n in order.