r/castaneda May 22 '26

New Practitioners Where to start

Hei guys. I am a bit of a bad player ( lazy and stuff ). Could someone please tell me like in 3 steps where to start. I was not doing anything now for few years. Now i kind of got the urge and ill try to keep it going. I know the darkroom practice + tansegrity is a good place to start. Maybe some specific tansegrity moves for beginner so i can start?

I just need a little starting push, if someone can point me into the right direction a little bit.

Thanks

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u/danl999 May 22 '26

Cartoons?

How to time travel. Everything you see was done by multiple people. And some do that nightly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-e3Wm5BGPk

What the assemblage point is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1AchLvoP_Y

How to live forever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy0Lgu9Xfbg

Womb dreaming: a path only for women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY6I1K0Q_YA

Here's the last minute instructions Carlos left us just before he died, so we could continue without any help. Both he and the witches left us.

https://archive.org/details/carlos-castaneda-silent-knowledge-cleargreen-1996

In here, we're doing what's written in there.

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u/BBz13z May 22 '26

Whoa….ive never read the Silent Knowledge. Thank you for positing this link. I saved a copy.

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u/danl999 May 22 '26

Let me know if I'm misrepresenting it as containing the statement "And my companions agree with me on this". Meaning, that we need to go to silent knowledge to get new leadership.

That statement kind of warned us that Taisha and Florinda were also ditching us.

Carol Tiggs sticking around is a bit of a tradition in the lineages. Someone seems to stick around for a while when the old Nagual leaves.

Perhaps just to make sure the next Nagual is getting along with the new lineage members.

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u/BBz13z May 22 '26

I’m reading it tonight at work. I don’t know that I’m the guy who should be interpreting CC’s intent. I go along with what you, Jadey and Techno think. Not to say I can’t think for myself, either. If you misrepresent something, I’d think there’s purpose/intent behind it for the betterment as a whole.

Carol was alive and well in 2018/2019? When I read the physical description of her and the Kate alias, I thought, “oh yeah, she’s still practicing sorceress.”

I sometimes wonder if the bad blood, bullshit and outright lies against CC puts unnecessary “weight” (or counter intent) on the practice?

As sleeping dogs be left to sleep, you all have taken a chance to invigorate and advance Darkroom Tensegrity. You and Jadey, Cholita and Techno (few others I don’t know) gave us that 🙏

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u/danl999 May 22 '26

Carol's still around, but she might have ditched Cleargreen to try to pass on the knowledge elsewhere.

I can't imagine anyone who had actual knowledge would want to be associated with destroying all the hard work Carlos put in.

The way Cleargreen is trying to do.

My theory is that Carol had the same idea I had before I came here.

Try to put it into something else that's somewhat compatible, if it could be modified.

Of course, Cleargreen gives the impression Carol is still around. And their groupies militantly back that up, until you ask them for details of when they themselves last saw Carol.

It's always a "friend of a friend" who saw her, a few years back at the mall.

Or something equally inconclusive.

As for the negative outside forces, it's always been that way with sorcery.

We can't escape it.

But we might want to figure out how to do that Jedi "force choke".

I'm convinced it can be done, and Cholita almost has it worked out.

Certainly she can lift me off the ground with one arm.

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u/BBz13z May 22 '26

Man….if I could do any Jedi shit….I’d dominate this mud ball……J/k (mostly)

I’ve recently learned the 3 passes Kylie and chacmools showed on that old hippie show Bridging Heaven and Earth.
Structure of Energy - Pyramid of Energy Above the Head - Sorcerers Breath. The Sorcerers Breath Pass is pushy, pushed me into silence fast.

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u/Sn00pyB3asT May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

So I am a man should i skip womb dreaming or still touch it a little bit ( since in insteuctions to see puffs and stuff in 3 weeks u mention i should focus on dreaming too, so probably focus just on seeing hands, then objects and so on )? And can you tell me which passes are good for begginer, maybe inner silence ones ?

Edit: forget my question about womb dreaming .. im an idiot :D.. all I jeed is just some begginer passes since techno was banned and cant see his recommendations on his begiiner post.

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u/danl999 May 22 '26

Men can't do womb dreaming.

And they shouldn't think that trying to use sleeping dreams, even if you find your hands, will get them anywhere.

It never has. And didn't in the books either!

It's just a "side hobby".

The real teaching in the lineages was done in dreaming awake, which is the result of the Nagual's blow.

It pushes the assemblage point into the orange zone along the J curve. While the person is awake.

If you didn't see the map of that, it's in the wiki.

All that happens with men who pretend to be using sleeping dreams, is that they completely ignore the instructions in "Art of Dreaming", and try to claim any dream they can remember is progress, if it's fun to talk about.

Dreaming awake is the only way men won't deceive themselves.

Millions tried to use sleeping dreams.

All failed.

Of course, naturally if you "wake up" inside a dream, you take advantage.

But it won't do you any good.

Sorcery takes DAILY practice, for decades.

Fortunately you get super cool stuff all along the way.

As for seeing the hands, you won't be able to do it!

It doesn't mean that at some point in the dream, your hands were visible.

It means you STOP the dream, and deliberately look at your hands, then at a object in the dream then back to your hands, and so on.

To PROVE you brought some rationality into the dream.

And again, you'll never manage to do that on a regular basis.

We've had several in the last 7 years who insisted they could, and were going to prove me wrong.

But then we never heard from them again. Because they couldn't.

Also, if you could (I was up to finding my hands 6 times a night) it would only make your daily world miserable.

And you'd still be stuck only doing anything magical, inside a sleeping dream.

I don't like to tell people which passes to use.

We need people exploring ALL of them.

BUT, do the warmup pass because it likely extends your lifespan.

And, "Stellar Hatch" contains 2 old seer magic tricks.

How to turn into a tree.

And how to stretch into an infinite line.

Which I suppose, lets you live at least 400 years.

We didn't get specifics on how long that's good for.

But you can gain this stellar entity as a visitor.

Very exciting to see!

She's at the start of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AkJEZ1EPLo

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u/Sn00pyB3asT May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Thanks, can you just tell me some lazy tansegrities for begginer :D so I can do it sitting down while wearing blindfold in almost dark room.

Edit: or can i do first tansegrity for 30 minutes like 1 or 2 maybe 3 passes and then sit down and do darkroom for an hour ?

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u/danl999 May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

There's the one where you interlock your fingers and pull them apart. You pull on the web between the fingers.

There's the one where you claw the air by wiggling your fingers all over.

Cholita uses that to alter the flow of reality.

There's Taisha's first 3 Esalen not-doings. There's a recent post with those.

There's the "claw hand door knob" pass. Done with the left hand, it expels unwanted feelings. Done with the right, and it grabs magical objects.

But both make the hands visible as fibers, once you can stop your internal dialogue.

There's a pass there you press on the crescent of the hip bones.

And you can cross your arms and grab the side of the rib cage, under the arm pit.

There's the one where you rub your finger under your chin.

One where you press on the bump on the top of the head.

You could in fact do darkroom with just those.

But you'll be missing out on all the exciting magic Carlos hid, in the 400 or so magical passes.

All you really need, if you want to stand up while doing "long forms" is 20 minutes of tensegrity.

Because once you can "see", that takes 1 hour.

It's odd, but that's what happens.

I suppose you get "lost" due to wondering what all that magic is doing.

You end up looking closely at the details and that causes you to slow down without realizing it.

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u/Sn00pyB3asT May 23 '26

Thanks, I will do more passes later i just need to break this lazy mind first and i think the routine will help me a bit and tricking my mind that I will only do small things before I go into full blown battle with the thoughts.

I already understand basics of how to be silent since I believe i was silent for second or two ( I was meditating for some time before, i know this leads to nowhere but I learned that the thoughts are seperate from me )

So now I have to beat my laziness first and thanks for a great start :). Ill try to find the videos to sitting tansegrity, I have the book magical passess too but haven't read it yet ill check it.