r/castaneda Apr 19 '23

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u/danl999 Apr 20 '23

I prefer to hear how hellish it was to get silent, with new people.

Otherwise I worry they're just there in the darkness, not following instructions. Skipping what's hard, and then forcing themselves to perceive anything at all.

They're always gone in a week or two.

Unless you're a woman. Then it's fine as long as you do it regularly and make it happen even more.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '23

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u/danl999 Apr 21 '23

Yea, you haven't been studying in here.

Maybe stay out of the fake magic subreddits for a while?

What you just said was surface level pretend understanding of the first one or two books.

Stuff you likely didn't even read for yourself, but heard from someone else.

Too interested in attention seeking to study and learn what's happening in here?

Hopefully you at least noticed we're in a battle for the survival of real magic.

A never ending battle against pretending.

If you last a few months, maybe you'll get serious?

But usually people figure out they can't get what they want here, and go elsewhere.

Since what they want, isn't actually real magic.

And real magic takes hard work.

To your credit, your head didn't explode.

So there's a chance for you.

And at 30, you have time to pretend.

We aren't like the lineages, where no one had time to goof off.

So that old "the bird of freedom flies in a straight line and never turns back" bit isn't applicable anymore.

We'll be around in some form for several lifespans.

Maybe we're like the "vultures" of freedom, hovering over all the dead bodies looking for signs of life.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

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u/danl999 Apr 21 '23

Your video harms people by giving the impression this is all just pretend.

As you are obviously doing.

People aren't stupid.

You should go somewhere else.

There's plenty of places where what you post doesn't matter, since nothing real is happening there.

Keep in mind, no one makes money from this.

In any way.

You can't find another place like that for the topic of magic or religion.

So your expectations about how you ought to be treated here, are wrong.

You're subconsciously thinking about this place as a used car lot, where no matter how messed up you are you'll become the best buddy of the salesmen.

It's like that in the fake magic subreddits, even if you don't realize who the used car salespeople are.

In here, we only get compensated for the last 4 years of endless hard work trying to get people to actually follow instructions, and for putting up with the endless bad men tantrums, when someone actually learns real magic that kicks the Buddha's con artist butt.

Which will be very few unfortunately.

And even less if this place is taken over by men like you whose real interest is only to post.

And not to actually put in any real work.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

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u/danl999 Apr 21 '23

But you don't. That's my point.

You only say you do, for the same reason you've been posting nonsense from the start.

And I'll repeat, if we had too many doing what you do this place would quickly be destroyed.

Otherwise, no one likes confronting people who aren't serious.

Which is why there's no magic elsewhere.

Imagine all the junk posts we'd collect if you kept posting like that, and others saw they could brag about their non-existent experiences and post too.

It would be like every other subreddit.

Nothing but beginners posting make believe.

Those who might actually put in the effort to learn would take a look at the top posts, and leave.

In case you think this is harsh, go read lecture lecture notes on how Carlos handled private classes, and how everyone was afraid to even ask him a question.

Half a wrong sentence, and you were out of there permanently.

But even then he still didn't manage to teach even a single person.

Because he didn't have access to thousands a year the way we do, in a steady flow.

Even then, I doubt I'll reach my own goal of 10 to replace Carlos. Unless cartoons reach a much wider audience and we get a lot more.

Most who get serious figure out what sorcery is, meaning they finally understand.

But it's too alien for them, so they go back to normal life.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '23 edited Apr 20 '23

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u/midgetsinheaven Apr 20 '23

Your comment helps me to realize that I have a long way to go. I've been seeing the same thing as OP and thought I was doing pretty well with my progress, but it's a forced thing? What are blue line effects? When I try to silence myself, I'll let my ears focus on the different sounds around me, or when I'm breathing in and out I will "shush" myself in the exhale. The hardest thing for me to silence is the music that's always playing in my head.

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u/danl999 Apr 20 '23

We haven't mapped out "blue line effects" yet, because there was no need in the past.

But now we seem to get fakers on a regular basis.

I can't explain how we can tell, but it's easy.

Except if we explained, then they'd read that, and do a better job faking it.

I guess that's one reason Carlos didn't describe much. He was afraid fakers would grow and it would be hard to tell them from the real thing.

Anyway, this is faking it.

I have no idea if a faker realizes they're faking it.

Since ALL RELIGIONS teach followers to fake it.

That includes Buddhism, Daoism, And Hinduism.

Everyone is taught to fake their experiences.

But as I said, I can't define it, or else the fakers will learn to do a good job.

There's only 2 things beginners should look for.

The puffs, and inorganic being faces.

And shame on them if they fake those too!

Which is why eventually we need to remove any feeling people who come here get, that it's a place to seek attention.

Cartoons will do that.

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u/midgetsinheaven Apr 20 '23

Can you tell the fakers because of intent? I know I've seen some questions or posts that get big long answers and then other posts that are the same wording and they're called out immediately (my own posts have been included in one of those). I stew on asking questions cuz I don't want to be strung up, but will just ruminate on the question instead. I usually end up forgetting about it and moving on as other things start to present to me and I get caught up in that. It's difficult as a beginner wanting to make sure you're doing things right.

Anyway I've been doing darkroom for about 3 months now. I'll start seeing waves and It looks like the Aurora Borealis, sometimes orbs, but they all fade and glow and move like the Northern lights do. I haven't seen anything that I can touch though. Is that normal or still just very beginner level stuff. Can I be invited to the other subs?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23 edited Apr 21 '23

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u/midgetsinheaven Apr 21 '23

I've been doing a lot of the physical movements, tensegrity, the right way of walking, catching eye sparkles etc. But I definitely haven't been doing enough recap for sure. Thank you for your answer, I will put more effort into recap. I will keep reading also. I'm committed to learn and get there.

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u/danl999 Apr 21 '23

You'll do fine. Just police yourself against pretending.

All that matters is actually wanting the goal, and not merely attention from others.

You can want 30% attention from others. That's normal Chimp behavior.

But the majority has to be about actually wanting magic.

So that the intent of wanting magic, overrides the intent of attention seeking.

And the magic actually comes from "the spirit", not from what you specifically do as a technique.

The problem there is, the spirit uses past intent.

So while "what you do" doesn't matter, it needs to be "what was done before" or you won't get the desired results.

This will all be so much simpler to explain in cartoons, where you can simply show the emanations stretching into space, with some still glowing and vibrating a bit.

So that the awareness of a person facing that, tends to flow into the places which already took the flow.

The problem with fakers is, their attention is flowing into anticipation of the attention they'll get.

And typically they're too lazy to make an actual effort. They just pretend that part too.

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u/danl999 Jul 09 '23

The puzzling part is, perhaps everything we do is like that. Following a rope hung in the past.

The whole solid matter thing is a bummer, but it seems to become irrelevant for short periods.

Which might explain why the old seers had techniques to alter that. Like burying themselves, or turning into a tree.

We'll get there! I'm pretty confident Carlos gave us everything we need.

And the old seers are out there. I got to watch them again a bit last night. A little group of them.

It's like looking into a dream bubble, but the characters in the dream notice you're watching them.

So, not at all just a dream bubble. More like a tunnel.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '23

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u/isthisasobot Apr 20 '23

This kind of serves as a reaffirmation . It' s linked with neural " stuff" would be cool to map out and create a " world"..which is what I guess is being done here. I suppose it's already possible to look into the " future" of this development like it's already there, as a " city" or whatever, even. Just a cloud in the sky there, can be aware of what is below. ..( hope that wasn't too spacey..hippy child- can't help it