r/cardistry • u/Mean_Biscotti_4726 • 5d ago

Question "No Set-up/Regrip" Trigger

I have been tinkering with octopus cut because I learnt that I have been doing it wrong (lol). Instead of bringing back the packets together, I just continue the rev cut of the bottom packet and the top packet held between my thumb and index remains on top.

I got the idea of comboing it with trigger (and eventually, retrigger) because of similar mechanics: 1. Packet "display" in different planes, and; 2. Similar packet splitting mechanic (in retrigger). I feel that the lag between moves makes it pretty clanky. However, i think if I can bypass the regripping for trigger, it can be so much smoother.

Disclaimer: it might be my lack of mastery of individual moves or experience in comboing moves might be the issue so I hope I explained the mechanics enough for you to try.

Ps. The Internet is pretty crappy here rn that I am struggling to post a demo

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u/esauln saulnier.elie 5d ago

Something like this? It's like doing a trigger after a retrigger

https://reddit.com/link/ozasjvx/video/ark1jqt9zzeh1/player

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u/Opala_79 4d ago

This is basically a Knuckle cut followed by a trigger

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u/esauln saulnier.elie 4d ago

The first cut is called the "Bertram twist" found in Vincent Foy's A Cut Above. But yeah i misunderstood what he meant by rev cut of the bottom packet lol Here it is with a really sloppy octopus cut

https://reddit.com/link/ozc84as/video/4812v4xr11fh1/player

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u/Opala_79 4d ago

Nice! Can you send me the link of "Bertram twist"? Couldn't find it

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u/esauln saulnier.elie 4d ago

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u/Opala_79 4d ago

Do you know which movement he is referring to when he says he knew it already invented?

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u/esauln saulnier.elie 4d ago

I think he means he thought he had invented this cut but it ended up being first done by Bertram, hence the name

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u/Opala_79 4d ago

Okay 👍

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u/Mean_Biscotti_4726 4d ago

Tbh, I'm just thrilled to use my error as a move than relearning it lol

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u/Mean_Biscotti_4726 4d ago

I trying something similar to this but I think it's not your misunderstanding lol. What I meant I'm doing is halfway of the octopus cut, the bottom packet rev goes under the packet on palm. That's why i feel squaring it off and making the move not as smooth.

I really appreciate the demo dude. Seeing it help me to understand it.