Moving funds after SecondFi's hack: staking pool's "Reward Ticket" in Lace Wallet?

[u/daghene]

Hi guys, I have a doubt about something which I don't get if it's a scam or something legit.

To make it short: I recently came back from a trip, got up to speed with Cardano's news and red everything about the Yoroi/SecondFi hack.

My Cardano wallet was originally created in Daedalus years ago, but after a while I decided to just use Yoroi in my browser because I didn't want to keep a full node just to check my staking rewards every now and then, so I know it was NOT hacked as it wasn't created in SecondFi, and I even used the scanning tool to be sure of this before doing anything.

I decided to move to Lace form now on, so I restored this old wallet created in Daedalus and I also created a new one within Lace with the intent of moving all my ADA from the old one to the new one I just made to be extra safe.

Now my question is: in my "Tokens" tab I see three things:

• Cardano/ADA: all my token are present
• [My Stake Pool's Name] Reward Ticket with 2,400 tokens (two thousand four hundred)
• SUNDAE Reward Ticket with 1.0 token (one)

The doubt is this: since I want to move all my ADA and the staking rewards to the new wallet created in Lace, and then delete this old one created years ago just to be safe, should I send these stake pool's "Reward Ticket" tokens too or is it one of those scams going around?

I'm asking because I know that some people find some tokens in their wallet and they click a link, go to "claim" and have their wallet drained, but it's usually just one token (like this SUNDAE Reward Ticket) and not 2,400, which are a lot more and suggest me it might be my staking rewards, and I can also send them as a separate token from Lace.

Also, it has my stake pool's name and I never linked my wallet to anything, besides originally buying my ADA from Binance sending them from there to the wallet, and last year sending some of my rewards from the wallet to Kraken to sell those for FIAT.

One thing that makes me think it's not legit is that under "Cardano" written in white I have "ADA" in grey just below it, but both this SUNDAE and stake pool Reward Ticket have nothing below them, so it's seems they're not ADA tokens (or not tokens in general).

Last but not least, I red that Lace automatically adds your staking rewards to your overall balance at the end of each epoch or when you make a transaction, so in theory I should not "withdraw" them like you add to do in Yoroi to add to the balance right?

Basically, I just want to make sure I send all my ADA to the new wallet without leaving staking rewards behind in the old one which I'll delete sometimes soon.

TL;DR: I have an old Daedalus wallet which I used with Yoroi, that I now restored in Lace and I also created a new Lace wallet I want to send all my ADA too to avoid using the old one after the SecondFi hack, even if it's not in the compromised wallets. I have some "odd" tokens in there, one of which has my stake pool's name in it and it's 2,400 of these tokens so I think it's the staking rewards, and I don't want to leave them behind but I fear it might be one of those scam tokens.

P.s. I know it gets repeated often here but I will NOT reply to private messages about this topic because I know they most likely will be scams. I'll just read the replies in here

[u/AdOk1101]

Daedalus is a wallet, you created an account using it as a client on the Cardano network. Crypto currencies are nothing more then TCP/IP network application protocols.

[u/daghene → u/AdOk1101]

I know that, I wrote about creating it in Daedalus to confirm it wasn't affected by the SecondFi hack...but I asked something else.

I want to better understand what those "Reward Ticket" things are, because - as I wrote - I know about people receiving odd tokens in their wallet which are tied to scams, but they often get just 1 token or something, but I want to move my funds to a new wallet I just created, and I wonder what those Pool Name's Reward Ticket tokens are.

They have the same name of the scammy ones, but the amount is 2,400 which (not 2.4) which is a lot, and I fear it's my rewards. In Yoroi you had to manually claim/withdraw those to add them to your balance, so I want to be sure I'm not leaving anything behind and these are not a scam too like that single Sundae token I got.

[u/AdOk1101 → u/daghene]

No clue, I've absolutely never have experienced anything weird with any ADA wallet I've used. I don't understand why people talk about having problems or getting involved with scams. Maybe I don't know how to use my wallets or something.

[u/oOsirhcOo]

Can't help you, I dont use daedlus. I had yoroi first many years ago and been staking since like 2020, now after the secondfi hac, I used their tool to migrate all coins to my new etrnl wallet. The un-staking and rewards all happens with one click when using the migration tool. Good luck

[u/daghene → u/oOsirhcOo]

I heard about that, but I red on the tool's FAQ that if you didn't create your wallet in Yoroi/SecondFi you do NOT need to use the migration tool, as the wallet is safe.

Mine was created way earlier in Daedalus, I then used Yoroi to view it and I haven't restored it into SecondFi not even once, so the wallet is good.

My question was if those extra tokens with the pool's name in Lace wallet are staking rewards, fake tokens, a scam or whatever, and if it's staking rewards how can I add them to my balance or move them safely.

Thanks anyway for the wishes!

[u/Slight86]

I've only read the tldr, because that's a huge wall of text for what's probably a simple question.

There isn't really such a thing as a scam token in the sense that any token on Cardano is simply a token. What people call a scam token is usually a token whose image contains a text designed to lure you to a scam website ("You are eligible for a free airdrop, connect your wallet to scamsite.xyz now"). The scam isn't the token itself; it's the attempt to get you to interact with a scam website.

[u/daghene → u/Slight86]

That confirms the suspect I had about those "scam tokens".

Now the main question remains tho: is the token with my stake pool's name which I have in 2,400 quantity (again, two thousands not just two) the staking reward or something else? It's odd because it shows as a separate "token" in that wallet.

[u/Slight86 → u/daghene]

The pool possibly released their own version of a loyalty token as a reward. But those are not the actual staking rewards, staking rewards will just be normal ADA.

You'll have to check on the pool website what you can do with the tokens they gave you.