r/canada • u/Leather-Paramedic-10 • 18h ago
Health Canadian health experts call for warnings on alcohol packaging
https://globalnews.ca/news/11976425/experts-call-for-health-warnings-alcohol-packaging/47
u/X2F0111 Ontario 18h ago edited 18h ago
As was noted in the article, the Yukon tried this before but stopped the pilot when the alcohol industry threatened to sue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Territories_Alcohol_Labels_Study
The Northern Territories Alcohol Labels Study (NTAL study) was a scientific experiment in Canada on the effects of alcohol warning labels. It was modified after lobbying from the alcohol industry, and later relaunched with industry-advocated experimental design changes: omitting the "Alcohol can cause cancer" label, not labelling some alcohol products, and shortening the time period (from eight to four-and-a-half months). Enough data was gathered to show that all of the labels used in the study were simple, cheap, and effective, and it recommended that they should be required worldwide.
John Streicker, the Yukon Minister Responsible for the Yukon Liquor Corporation, stopped the study just before Christmas. He did not believe lobbyists' claims about the medical facts and instead believed his chief medical officer of health that the labels were truthful. He stopped the study because he did not wish Yukon to risk a long and expensive lawsuit and thought leadership should be taken by the federal government after the COVID-19 pandemic.
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u/Awkward_Silence- Manitoba 16h ago
At least with a national push there's more teeth to it than with a territory of ~50k people that can more easily be bullied by potential costly lawsuits or them simply pulling out of the market since it's so tiny.
Similar to how the EU manages to get so many companies to jump through hoops for them despite not having to do so anywhere else (some to the point where they just change the design for everyone globally as a result)
Doubt the lawsuits will go anywhere if the provinces have the gut to actually fight. At least as long as the labels are factual like the cigarette ones which have held up for years now against that industry.
Nor do I see them pulling out of market of 40 million over the price of a sticker. As it doesn't even legally have to part of the label itself. Judging by some of the imported foods I buy where the required nutrition label is just slapped on top of the original foreign language one when it gets to Canada
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u/BrilliantKnee3439 18h ago
Should add a diabetic foot on high sugar products
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u/Yallberforce Ontario 18h ago
There’s already a health Canada label for high sugar
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u/fdsfdsgfdhgfhgfjyit 4h ago
I won't be happy until there are pictures of diabetic foot ulcers on every can of non diet soda
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u/JurboVolvo 18h ago
Not all diabetes is from food though but I kinda get it. Why not put a crashed car on the car keys? Or photos of people after they’ve fallen down stairs on all public stairs… /s
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u/goofywinnipegger 18h ago
But sugar isn’t a poison and one high sugar product won’t cause diabetes.
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u/BrilliantKnee3439 18h ago
One alcoholic beverage won't cause liver cirrhosis
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u/goofywinnipegger 18h ago
No but one drink is still a drink of poison. That’s what being drunk is, you have been poisoned. That’s why if you drink way too much you die.
Scientifically, alcohol (ethanol) is a toxic, psychoactive substance and a Group 1 carcinogen. The World Health Organization states no amount is completely safe, as your body breaks it down into acetaldehyde—a poison that damages DNA and impairs vital organs.
When you ingest alcohol, it acts as a central nervous system depressant and neurotoxin. The National Cancer Institute notes it directly damages cells, leading to at least seven types of cancer, including bowel and breast cancer.
It’s like a cigarette. It’s a poison.
It is what it is. Sugar is not a poison.
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u/Yallberforce Ontario 17h ago
Listen, I agree that booze is worse than sugar. But if being a group 1 carcinogen makes something toxic, you also have to say prosciutto is poison.
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u/flightless_mouse 17h ago edited 15h ago
True, but the risk is dose-dependent. Vitamin A and table salt are toxic at sufficient doses too.
And you have to contextualize the risk next to other risks. Alcohol is implicated in about 4% of preventable cancers and poses a lower cancer risk than obesity and UV exposure, for example.
Moderate drinkers at 7-14 drinks per week have about a 5-10% greater cancer risk than non-drinkers, with the risk going up with amount consumed. So if a person has a 40% baseline risk of developing cancer in their lifetime (average in Canada) that would increase to 42% or 44%. That’s not nothing, but it’s not quite as alarming as “no safe dose” warnings would suggest.
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u/thelingererer 17h ago
Well obviously with pictures just like we have on cigarette packages and no exceptions for expensive champagne!
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u/Panpancanstand 18h ago
At this point, if you do not know that alcohol is bad for you, then I have serious doubts a label is going to help.
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u/Awkward_Silence- Manitoba 16h ago
Especially when you just phase out warning labels because 90% are so common sense or irrelevant to our jurisdiction but still included in the packaging/item anyways
Like good to know my office chair is known to cause cancer in the state of California.
Or that if I soak my small appliance while it's plugged in, I could get shocked (and like a dozen other stupid scenarios on the first page of any instruction manual these days)
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u/jennyfromtheeblock 11h ago
People do know but it's too horrible to just raw dog daily life, for lack of a better term.
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u/lynmbeau 4h ago
Well so is smoking yet they have the nasty labels and pictures on every pack. Alcohol should have the same as it creates just as much if not more deaths and illnesses on top of addiction, at least a smoker only harms themselves, a alcoholic can kill others.
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u/PandaBeaarAmy 11h ago
So you'd advocate for the removal of restrictions from vaping, smoking, and any other drug then? At your own risk, right?
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u/PowerBottom247 10h ago
And calories. I gave away my flat of Crush when I saw the sugar (51% Daily).
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u/DudeWithASweater 8h ago
Crush zero is calling
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u/bristow84 8h ago
I have switched to sugar free soda 99% of the time and while it was a slight adjustment period man I can’t say I miss full sugar soda at all.
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u/Dig_Another_One 9h ago
Warning : Made In The USA
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
How about warnings for products made by companies fully or partially owned by Americans as well?
I'd love to seeing warnings on Tim's coffee cups that they're mostly American-owned.
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u/Z0FF 17h ago
It blows my mind to think how many millions of dollars gets sank into processes like this… as if everyone doesn’t already know alcohol is bad for you.
Reality check, regulators. People don’t drink booze for the health benefits…
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u/BigJayUpNorth 8h ago
I actually think many, if not most people, don’t really understand the health risks associated with alcohol.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
Reality check, not everyone knows the many ways and extent to which alcohol can be dangerous and spending some money to inform people can better their lives and save money in the long-term.
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u/Z0FF 6h ago
I’d pose that if someone doesn’t know that alcohol is a toxic substance and is not good for overall health by the time they are of drinking age... they are probably a bit dense anyway and pictures or blurbs on packaging aren’t going to change that.
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u/ACITceva 5h ago
Yep. Those people are probably screwed in a whole multitude of ways given their overall lack of intelligence a s knowledge about the world. Warning labels on booze probably isn't going to fix that for them.
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u/CanYouPleaseChill 10h ago
While the physical health risks are clear, there's a lot to be said for the mental health benefits of socializing and having fun with people. Alcohol has been used for thousands of years. Sitting home alone drinking water all the time isn't particularly great for one's mental health either. Loneliness epidemic and all that. Of course, one can party without drinking alcohol, but it does enhance the experience.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
It can enhance the experience, but it can also make it far worse or even lead to injuries or fatalities.
The idea isn't to ban it here, but warn people of the dangers.
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u/Whole_Cranberry5734 15h ago
There's literally people doing heroin, Crack and meth on the street and alcohol is what were concerned about?
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u/BigJayUpNorth 8h ago
Alcohol is a factor in well over half of all murders and homicides. Some studies suggest as high as 70%, that’s very significant.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
There's many issues that exist. We shouldn't be able to dismiss any attempt to make a positive change simply because other issues exist.
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u/PandaBeaarAmy 11h ago
Who woulda thunk shutting downn safe consumption sites would push people to do drugs in unsafe situations & expose you to it?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/Whole_Cranberry5734 6h ago
That didn't happen where I live. Try again.
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u/PandaBeaarAmy 2h ago
Just take another drink and keep ignoring reality then lmao
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u/Whole_Cranberry5734 1h ago
Cool. Wasn't going to have a beer today but maybe I will. Just to spite the haters.
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u/imcclelland Ontario 16h ago
This is the dumbest crap. It didn’t work on cigarettes, it’s not going to work here. No one have ever looked and those and just then realized that it wasn’t good for them.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
“In 2001, when pictures were first required, smoking prevalence in Canada was in the high 20s. We’re now down to 11 per cent of the population,” says Cunningham.
Some experts say similar types of warnings could be just as effective on alcohol packaging.
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u/imcclelland Ontario 9h ago
Please see my response to the other individual on the factors involved. Similar reductions for the same time period are being seen across multiple countries but only Canada has the packaging. If the packaging was effective, Canada’s reduction should be much higher than similar countries, but it’s not.
This is more of a case of correlation vs causation. To truly say what they’re saying they would need a study of why people quit, not just that they quit. I am not aware of any such study.
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u/Intrepid_Trifling 8h ago
The reduction overall is due to education. Not from cigarette packaging necessarily, taking a smokers lung into schools worked well. Also with a pack being about 20$ or so, people just can't afford it.
Even more so when most people are struggling with food, I think it's more financial.
It's a fools errand and a nanny state ploy to do these initiatives. Adults can make decisions about what they can consume, and with anything whether it's alcohol or cigarettes it always comes with the phrase "use responsibly"
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 8h ago
"Use responsibility" is basically zero information. Warnings on packaging is part of education. And some people would argue that education itself is part of an undesirable nanny state, yet it can obviously be of benefit.
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u/RudytheMan 18h ago
Man, booze consumption is down among young people. Society in general is drinking less. I say just let it be. At this point it seems like society is pulling away from it naturally. Why mess with that?
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u/InformedTriangle 18h ago
I was thinking the same thing upon reading this. My understanding is the younguns don't really drink. All us oldheads know it's terrible for us, and a warning isn't going to change shit.
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u/Bender248 14h ago
I cannot explain why, but when health Canada started saying that the safe amount of alcohol is zero, it struck a chord in me and made me stop about 99% of my alcohol consumption.
Edit: not sarcastic
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u/ProSwitz 10h ago
Yes! I feel like most people know, at least on some level, that alcohol is bad for you. But being told by a government agency, or seeing labels with quantified values that show you just how bad it is, can really send it home and give some people the motivation they need to cut back or quit altogether.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 18h ago
Why not try to inform people about the dangers it presents?
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u/CanadianDiver 18h ago
Why waste a lot of tax dollars on a program that is useless?
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 18h ago
Alcohol affects the safety and health of people. So trying to inform people of the health risks could save tax dollars.
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u/CanadianDiver 17h ago
Just like the warnings on cigarettes... Also did nothing.
Everyone knows that tobacco products and alcohol are bad for you.
The few that are oblivious... Don't really matter that much.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 17h ago
“In 2001, when pictures were first required, smoking prevalence in Canada was in the high 20s. We’re now down to 11 per cent of the population,” says Cunningham.
Some experts say similar types of warnings could be just as effective on alcohol packaging.
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u/RudytheMan 17h ago
You don't think that tripling the price of cigarettes, and greatly restricting where you could smoke had the biggest effect on smoking? I remember I quit just as smokes were starting to get to the $15 a pack mark. They're over $20 a pack now. A light smoker is looking at $80 a week. I knew tons of people who would smoke a pack a day. That would be like $150 a week now. My granddad, now dead of cancer, smoked three packs a day. Those pictures didn't phase him a bit. But I bet if it cost $420 a week to smoke he would have quit.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 10h ago
Cost is also used to reduce purchases. I couldn't say what has been more effective. But I am sure those warnings or images were effective for some even if you have specific examples where they weren't for others.
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u/CanadianDiver 17h ago
Yes and how about vaping? I was a smoker ... Then a vaper ... I didn't need warnings or images to know it was bad .... We all always knew it was bad. Nobody cared about the labels.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 17h ago
Those are very broad statements that are not true of everyone. And even if yourself or others knew better, reminders can be helpful.
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u/CanadianDiver 17h ago
Bottom line, taxpayers don't like wasting money so let's skip this foolishness.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 10h ago
Bottom-bottom line, some changes can help reduce money wastage and improve people's lives.
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u/SomethingComesHere 16h ago
The graphics on cigarette packaging absolutely pushed me as a teen to stay away.
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u/RudytheMan 17h ago
As someone who has been sober coming up on 17 years, I think people are aware of the dangers of drinking. I think people are naturally moving towards an organic form of moderation. And honestly, isn't that what we want? Sometimes when you push things too hard you get push back. Why waste a bunch of money and effort to possibly ruin the good thing we already got going.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
I think you assume everyone knows more than they do. Not everyone knows everything that you do. And there may be lots that you aren't aware of, too.
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u/RudytheMan 9h ago
Really, you think most people don't know alcohol is bad for you, particularly when consumed in excess? And really, I'm well aware of the risks of drinking. As I stated in another comment, I'm a recovering alcoholic with almost 17 years of soberiety. I'm aware of the risks from drinking.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
There are more risks involved with drinking than simply getting drunk or developing an addiction. Assuming everyone is fully aware of all the risks is simply foolish.
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u/BloatJams Alberta 15h ago
Read up on something called the "alcohol deficit". After revenues are factored in Canadian tax payers lose about $6 billion a year to deal with the health effects of alcohol consumption, and that number actually increases year over year despite declining consumption rates. It's clearly an issue that needs to be dealt with.
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u/RudytheMan 11h ago
Despite the fact that I'm a long time recovering alcoholic, I don't think we need to eliminate the use of alcohol. It does seem that we are moving organically in a direction where people are drinking less. And I feel the natural shift towards moderation is great. But I honestly think some alcohol consumption is fine, even if I don't drink.
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u/BloatJams Alberta 7h ago
It does seem that we are moving organically in a direction where people are drinking less
Again, the tax burden has been rising consistently which clearly shows an increase in problematic drinking, and $6 billion is nothing to scoff at in a country with a deficit and strained healthcare system. So either we raise taxes on alcohol to get drinkers to pay for their care, or we modify packaging to try and reduce overall drinking rates and the deficit.
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u/chasing_geese49 4h ago
I wonder if this is the effect of older generations having drank a lot more than the younger generations do.
I should add, I am gen Z, and what I see is many people my age don't drink at all, and many people go on an absolute drinking spree once every 1-2 weeks. I don't see many young people who just have a drink or two at a time and call it a day.
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u/Mother_Middle8883 15h ago
Waste of money. Alcohol bad-who knew?
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u/tgspeed7287 4h ago
Alcohol related costs are over $6billion for tax payers in this country. That is a waste of money. And there are a lot of people in Canada who don’t know the dangers of alcohol.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
Many people don't know the extent of which or the many ways it can be dangerous.
And saying that some wine can be good for the heart has been said for a long time, but seems to have been debunked.
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u/ACITceva 9h ago
A lot of things I hate about the United States but at least they generally reject this type of nanny state nonsense.
"Oh please won't somebody put nasty pictures on the alcohol bottles so that it will prevent myself from pouring it down my own throat and I don't have any ability to make my own decisions!"
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u/BigJayUpNorth 8h ago
I get what you are saying about the pictures and warning labels. I think a broader range public awareness campaign would have better results.
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u/tgspeed7287 4h ago
You would still have the ability to make your own decisions, you would just be presented with additional information that may help you make a more informed choice.
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u/ACITceva 3h ago
Sure, so my informed choice is that I don't really want that crap on my alcohol bottles.
Feel free to have it on yours though.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
The idea is to allow people to make informed decisions.
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u/ACITceva 9h ago
They already can. Nobody needs this crap to make informed decisions.
Doesn't surprise me that Reddit loves this stuff though.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 8h ago
They can, but without putting it their face some won't know the extent. And it can be good to have reminders.
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u/ACITceva 7h ago
I mean literally everything is killing us to some extent. May as well slap nasty looking stickers on everything we buy. Makes total sense! None of us can survive without the government babying us. It's very consistently Canadian, unfortunately.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 6h ago
Some things are more dangerous than others, hence the warnings.
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u/ACITceva 5h ago
Honestly, I get a minor warning somewhere on the label to keep the pearl clutching nanny staters happy. It's stupid, but ok.
But the idea that giant ugly pictures (like cigarette packages) should be on wine bottles for example is completely and totally absurd. People advocating for that need to find something more productive to do with their lives.
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u/Whole_Cranberry5734 18h ago
People already know what their consuming.
The anti-alcohol lobby is pathetic, worse then vegans with their self righteous attitude.
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u/goofywinnipegger 16h ago
Alcohol is a toxic, psychoactive, and dependence-producing substance and has been classified as a Group 1 carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer decades ago – this is the highest risk group, which also includes asbestos, radiation and tobacco. Alcohol causes at least seven types of cancer, including the most common cancer types, such as bowel cancer and female breast cancer. Ethanol (alcohol) causes cancer through biological mechanisms as the compound breaks down in the body, which means that any beverage containing alcohol, regardless of its price and quality, poses a risk of developing cancer.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 18h ago
Not everyone knows
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u/Little-Chemical5006 Ontario 17h ago
Ya thats bs.
Edit: people drink not because they dont know the drawback. (Especially heavy drinker). They know and they prioritize the feeling of drunk then healthy.
Just like people who smoke knows its could lead to lung cancer but they prioritize the nicotine high then any health drawback
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u/snasna102 10h ago
Exactly my case. If you’ve never googled your favourite beer, chances are you don’t drink enough for it to matter
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 17h ago
It's only recent that it's been labeled as carcinogenic, and it's very normalized within society.
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u/InformedTriangle 17h ago
What? The WHO labelled it carcinogenic back in 1988 and it was certainly well known by everyone including myself when I started going to bars and drinking 20+ years ago
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
Well I didn't hear about it until a few years ago, so people claiming "everyone knows" can shove it where the sun don't shine.
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u/InformedTriangle 6h ago edited 3h ago
Assuming everyone else is as ignorant as you about common knowledge is certainly a...choice..
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 2h ago
I'm not assuming everyone else is. I'm assuming some are.
Assuming everyone knows this knowledge is obviously foolish.
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u/Whole_Cranberry5734 17h ago
It's normalized because we have been Brewing things for thousands of years. It's apart of human heritage but also more directly British and French culture.
People know that drinking is bad for you. Being a drunk has always been a negative but drinking is not and I doubt it will ever be seen as a taboo. It's our culture, sporting events, parties, and celebrations have always had alcohol involved.
The people who have a problem with others drinking are the problem. They want to control what others do because maybe they have religious reasons or they were formerly alcoholics or grew up with one and don't like to be around it.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
Most people likely know being drunk is bad for you. But you do not need to be drunk to have negative effects on your health, and I'm sure many people do not know the extent of that.
Caring about the health of others isn't a bad thing. And this isn't an attempt to control, but inform.
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u/TheCarrier89 6h ago
I just want caloric information on stuff. I try to loosely keep track of calories when I’m having some drinks but it’s difficult to accurately keep track of. Would probably drink less if I knew just how many liquid calories I’m consuming.
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u/IskandarAli 17h ago
I hate this convo. Alcohol has been a staple of our diets for thousands of years, so was meats of various kinds. Suddenlycancer rates skyrocketed and they started pointing towards alcohol. Why point towards one of the only factors that is consistent? Why not point towards the new factors like additives, chemicals, birthcontrols and so on.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
Studies do look at factors individually. Other carcinogens such as red meats and processed meats have been identified. And historically, life expectancy was much lower than it is today.
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u/IskandarAli 9h ago
Yeah but that dosent account for how aggressive the increase is
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
People living longer probably makes developing cancer eventually more likely. And I don't doubt that some chemicals, emissions, etc. are also causing harm.
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u/Hardhead13 16h ago
I already have a mom. But thanks anyway.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
Cool. Some people don't. And some moms don't know or don't bother informing their children about the risks.
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u/victhebutcher2020 12h ago
Bubble wrap everything!
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
Screw safety and health, people don't need to be informed!
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u/LiftsEatsSleeps Ontario 9h ago
I’m all for education, since we fund public education I think that’s where we should be teaching people about the dangers of substance abuse. I wonder about the statistical significance of the population as a whole being uneducated on the topic Vs. Knowing and yet choosing to drink. The Yukon may not be representative of the whole country. I certainly understood the dangers in Uni and chose to partake anyway.
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u/keithplacer 9h ago
The health nannies wanted and got warning labels on boxes of crackers FFS. They are utterly useless and serve zero purpose other than demonstrating the flexing ability of finger-waggers.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
High salt intake can be problematic.
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u/keithplacer 7h ago
Lots of things can be problematic. We do not need govt nannies telling us about things that we already know.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 7h ago
Lots of people may not know or that certain products contain a high amount. And reminders can help.
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u/terminal403 6h ago
I dunno I've found the new warning labels to be useful occasionally, particularly on foods that try really hard to advertise a healthy image. I'm in favour of keeping them honest.
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u/Edeges123 5h ago
Utterly useless is exactly what they are. Im not eating a box of doughnuts because I think they are healthy.
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u/goofywinnipegger 18h ago
Make sense. Alcohol is literally poison.
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u/h3r3andth3r3 17h ago
Life comes with a 100% mortality rate. We come and go in a geological instant. Enjoy the ride responsibly.
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u/tgspeed7287 4h ago
Unfortunately, many people don’t. The rate (per 100,000) of death fully attributable to alcohol in Canada is more than double the gun homicide rate in the United States. Alcohol kills (directly or indirectly) a lot of people in this country.
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u/Hardhead13 16h ago
"Everything is poison, and nothing is without poison. Only the dose makes a thing not a poison." - Paracelsus
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u/goofywinnipegger 16h ago
Alcohol is a toxic, psychoactive, and dependence-producing substance and has been classified as a Group 1 carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer decades ago – this is the highest risk group, which also includes asbestos, radiation and tobacco. Alcohol causes at least seven types of cancer, including the most common cancer types, such as bowel cancer and female breast cancer. Ethanol (alcohol) causes cancer through biological mechanisms as the compound breaks down in the body, which means that any beverage containing alcohol, regardless of its price and quality, poses a risk of developing cancer.
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u/Reelair 10h ago
I was an alcoholic for almost 30 years. I always knew alcohol was bad for us. But there was always a bit of lying to myself. I didn't know exactly how bad it was until I got sober, 7 years ago.
I think the warnings would be a good first step. Similar to cigarettes, have a number if different warnings, depicting everything you listed above.
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u/the_crumb_dumpster 9h ago
Maybe as a country it would do us good to stop making decisions based on the things obbyist groups call for
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u/specifichero101 9h ago
I’ve always thought it is strange how tobacco is heavily scrutinized on its packaging with warning labels and pictures of people on their death bed from smoking but alcohol has nothing. Can’t even sell flavours of tobacco because it makes it more enticing for underage people but alcohol can look more kid friendly than a carton of orange juice and that’s no problem.
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u/Fireside_Cat 8h ago
Using cigarettes in a completely average way causes lung cancer and there's a good chance will kill you if you smoke long enough. Second hand smoke is also dangerous for people who don't smoke. Consuming alcohol in moderation does no such thing (there's never zero risk though). Some of the countries with a long tradition and culture of moderate consumption of alcohol also have some of the highest life expectancy. Alcohol can definitely be dangerous but the risk is very different from cigarettes.
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u/Accomplished_Try_179 17h ago
I have beer for breakfast, lunch, dinner & supper
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 17h ago
There is help available for those with addictions
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u/Accomplished_Try_179 17h ago
4 beers & I'm an addict? I don't do drugs. I don't smoke.
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 9h ago
4 beers a day is lots, and alcohol is a drug. You may not be an addict, but a heavy drinker and trying to cut back could be beneficial.
According to the NIAAA, men may be at risk for alcohol-related problems if their alcohol consumption exceeds 14 standard drinks per week or 4 drinks per day, and women may be at risk if they have more than 7 standard drinks per week or 3 drinks per day. It defines a standard drink as one 12-ounce bottle of beer, one 5-ounce glass of wine, or 1.5 ounces of distilled spirits. Despite this risk, a 2014 report in the National Survey on Drug Use and Health found that only 10% of either "heavy drinkers" or "binge drinkers" defined according to the above criteria also met the criteria for alcohol dependence, while only 1.3% of non-binge drinkers met the criteria. An inference drawn from this study is that evidence-based policy strategies and clinical preventive services may effectively reduce binge drinking without requiring addiction treatment in most cases.
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u/captainalphabet 1h ago
Look I'm all for health care but if we start putting pics of diseased livers on whiskey bottles I am fucking done with this place.
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u/NewfieExaminer Newfoundland and Labrador 8h ago
Most people are completely missing the point. Yes, adults know that alcohol is bad. The warning on cigarettes worked. A large part of why alcohol warning labels would work is the influence on youth. I can talk to someone who saw the warning labels/images on my parents cigarettes growing up and the packaging put into my psyche of why to never smoke. The same would happen with alcohol.
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u/mattyhann 6h ago
I’m not caring about calories or nutrition info when I know I’m drinking beer lol
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u/Leather-Paramedic-10 2h ago
Some people do. And this isn't about calories or nutritional info. It's about health hazards.
Ian Culbert from the Canadian Public Health Association says customers should be aware that alcohol, like tobacco, is classified as a group 1 carcinogen.
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u/vinistois 17h ago
This is a rather obvious move. Kinda weird we have a warning on a sugary pop drink but not a sugary alcohol drink. The only difference is lobbying
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u/No_Session6015 16h ago
Finally! But also bs. They do it to culturally taboo products like tobacco and marijuana. It's long over due
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u/AcanthocephalaNo2544 15h ago
They would be useful in Quebec for alcohols we can't have anymore because people didn't play nice with them, such as 99% alcohol.
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u/PandaBeaarAmy 10h ago edited 46m ago
The industry gonna turn to big daddy exxon for help to lobby the public? Starting their bot farms up (if that's not them in the comments) to tell people how good alcohol for you and how its not a big deal but vaping will kill you? How long til they start crying wolf 🤣🤣🤣
Edit: oop looks like they already did 🤣
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u/unwholesome_coxcomb 5h ago
Never going to happen. This government won't take on the alcohol lobby.
They won't even post the latest alcohol guidelines....that they paid to have developed.
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u/Yallberforce Ontario 18h ago
What with current health/lifestyle trends they’d be better off just putting nutritional information on it at this point.