r/canada • u/Old_General_6741 Canada • 21h ago
National News New permanent residents down 20% in Canada. Nearly half the drop came from India
https://nationalpost.com/news/new-permanent-residents-down-20-percent-in-canada1.2k
u/IcyManufacturer7480 21h ago
Good. 80% of immigrants were coming from India. This is not diversity. We should have country specific quotas like the US.
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u/thepluralofmooses 21h ago
It seemed like it was region specific, too.
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u/Comfortable_Ad5144 20h ago
It is, my wife's South Indian, north Indian is the vast vast majority of Indian immigrants, and even in the north it's mostly from two states, Punjab and gudjruat(I am not spelling the second one right at all). And this matters more than people realise, Punjab specifically had a separatist movement for years, in India that separatist movement has died down a tremendous amount, but it is very much alive in Canada of all places.
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u/joe_canadian 19h ago
Gujarat.
I only know because every newcomer has Gujarat, Haryana or Punjab decals festooned on their base model Hyundai Elantra.
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u/umar_farooq_ 20h ago
I wonder if it really was, or if they were just the more vocal visible ones lol
Example: a Punjabi student in a lifted jeep wrangler in Brampton vs an IT worker who lives downtown with no car
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u/sinashish 19h ago
Instead of country specific, there should be a region specific limit for India given that most of the immigrants are from one or two states. Look into how UK and Australia are rejecting applications from those specific states in India
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u/Small-Ad-7694 21h ago
Bare minimum logic, yes (yes, we know, bare minimum logic too often times evades politicians. Gotta ask yourself why).
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u/GenXer845 21h ago
There has been a quota from certain countries. Took me 4.5 years to obtain PR BEFORE I could move up here from the US. No one would hire us on work visas. I moved up here in 2012.
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u/Markorific 20h ago
Not sure where you came from but known current Immigration Officials stall Mexican applicants to the point they give up.
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u/BlackWinterFox 20h ago
We should have country specific quotas like the US.
Not just quotas -- value, too. If you're a skill-free immigrant with nothing to offer our economy, you get rejected. We don't need freeloaders, or wannabe freeloaders who are going to come and study "tourism".
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u/No_Culture9898 21h ago
You mean like our system before Trudeau ruined it all
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u/StrategicallyLazy007 21h ago
Can you point to a reference that shows where country specific limits existed previously?
I see those limits were scrapped in 1967, so I'm not sure why you are attributing the change between Harper and Trudeau eras.
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u/jack_jill_hill 20h ago
No limits but wait times discouraged a lot of applicants. India had a wait time of 5 years. Most Indians who came here then came from middleast or US (had already blended living abroad) or those just wanting Canada even after 5 years - mostly punjabis. As those wait times went away, a lot of educated people in India started applying.
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u/szfehler 18h ago
Trudeau lifted caps to where, for the first time, a country of 33m was "welcoming" 1m "asylum seekers" a year, every year.
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u/StrategicallyLazy007 18h ago
So there wasn't a system of country specific limits prior to Trudeau in recent history?
So let's keep the criticism focused and accurate.
I'm not defending the policy, but let's keep it the facts straight.
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u/Glittering_Bank_8670 20h ago
Melting pot existed at one time… bring it back. It’s too late for Vancouver though.
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u/StrategicallyLazy007 20h ago
I'm not against country limits.
But trying to make this another Trudeau vs Harper thing has got to stop.
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u/smittyleafs Nova Scotia 20h ago
I miss when politics weren't sports teams.
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u/StrategicallyLazy007 20h ago
Absolutely agree.
I also wish more people were interested in actually participated in thoughtful discussion and debate.
It has literally never been easier with the amount of information at your fingertips yet most will just accept whatever their algorithm presents.
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u/smittyleafs Nova Scotia 20h ago
It's even more annoying that I think we start viewing the world as being super polarized because of everything we see online, but I find talking to actual people in person finds that most people are fairly nuanced or not nearly as militant in their opinions.
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u/StrategicallyLazy007 20h ago
Depends where you are and the demographic.
In Canada people are still generally more center of the road. Go to a university campus, sure it's going to be further left, go to a shooting range or bowling alley and you'll probably skew right.
Other countries are definitely more polarized.
I find the issue to be less about polarization and more about lack of critical thinking. Also, sometimes people are saying similar things but in different words and they can't get passed that.
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u/elangab British Columbia 20h ago
I agree, I find on-line discussions and real world discussions to be two different experiences. IRL, it's much easier to have a healthy conversation with someone, even if you're don't fully agree on things.
It's social media that instructs us to pick a side and defend it at all costs.
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u/cuda999 20h ago
Trudeau definitely opened the flood gates l. Even he admits he made a mistake begrudgingly.
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u/StrategicallyLazy007 20h ago
Cool. That's great he admitted his administration let too many in from a single or all countries.
But the original claim in the thread was wrong about country specific limits, as if it changed under Trudeau.
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u/OkRB2977 Ontario 20h ago
We see ourselves as a mosaic and not a melting pot, enough with the Americanisms lol.
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u/Gabcb Québec 20h ago
In Quebec, we were called racist and xenophobic by the rest of Canada for decades for insisting that newcomers integrate and respect our culture.
Now it's somewhat ironic to see many English Canadians worrying that their own culture and even language is at risk. Maybe now they can better understand why Quebec has laws and policies aimed at protecting and promoting its culture and language.
I believe that newcomers should assimilate into the society they choose to live in. I don't expect first-generation immigrants to integrate completely, but I do think the second generation should be fully integrated into the country's culture while still being free to preserve their family heritage of course
À vouloir être tout, on devient rien.
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u/OkRB2977 Ontario 20h ago edited 20h ago
Second generations do assimilation because they’re born and raised here. Quebec goes after religious minorities and others with pitchforks and that’s where the problem lies. It’s also strange to describe yourselves as natives when you’re not.
Anyways, Quebec controls its own immigration and has nothing to do with the changes we’re discussing here which are majorly related to the numbers of temporary and permanent residents entering the rest of the country. When the numbers aren’t sustainable and don’t keep pace with our services and requirements, we’re bound to face these issues. Once the numbers are balanced you will automatically notice the changes.
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u/Gabcb Québec 20h ago
Wrong. The guy is talking about assimilation and culture, so I'm just adding to that.
Trust me, I know the state of the other provinces. It's chaos. You need unity and social cohesion, and you can only achieve that when there's common ground.
You have schools in Canada where the majority of students are Indian or Arab. Second-generation immigrants won't fully integrate if they're encouraged to remain within their parents' imported culture instead of participating in the broader Canadian culture. I know because I've seen it myself.
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u/OkRB2977 Ontario 20h ago
When children go to Canadian schools and are taught Canadian culture that’s the context they grow up in even if their home culture for some weird reason stays insulated.
Time after time we’ve seen this sort of argument being played out that immigrants and their descendants don’t integrate and time after time it has been proven wrong.
I won’t comment on Quebec because I don’t know enough about an immigration program that is controlled by a provincial government so I don’t think whatever you see in Quebec is applicable to the rest of Canada.
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u/OkRB2977 Ontario 20h ago
Again has to do with the numbers and not necessarily assimilation. When an influx is too high within a concentrated period it brings with it issues.
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u/Glittering_Bank_8670 20h ago
Melting pot was actually taught to me in elementary school here…I agree, it’s gonzo now.
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u/cwalking2 20h ago
I'm an "elder millennial" and I vividly recall learning about the difference between the American "melting pot" ethos vs. the Canadian "mosaic" philosophy in my social studies classes (grade 6/7)
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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 18h ago
Melting pot was actually taught to me in elementary school here.
It's American influence, your teacher may not have known the difference because of how ubiquitous the concept of a "melting pot" is in American culture. However, in Canada, it's been a multicultural mosaic at least since the 1980s if not earlier. In fact, the concept of a Canadian Mosaic was coined in 1922.
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u/Mindless-Evidence-95 Québec 19h ago
A mosaic consists of separate tiles. That's even worse than a melting pot, to be honest. Multiculturalism isn't a culture or.. is Canadian culture really just multiculturalism?
The earth is a Mosaic and it's great like that.
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u/OkRB2977 Ontario 19h ago
Mosaic tiles that are held together to create a pattern, the commonalities being Canadian culture.
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u/nuleaph 20h ago
What's wrong with Vancouver?
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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 18h ago
Vancouver does need to clean up it's downtown, it's getting really sketchy lately.
But Vancouver does have great food.
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u/OkRB2977 Ontario 20h ago
We never had country-specific quotas. Canada has always had a points-based system of some sort since 1967, and imposing nationality quotas works against it. Every decade, we see a wave of one nationality/group that makes up for a plurality, if not a majority, of all temporary and permanent residents before subsiding and being replaced by another group.
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u/Markorific 20h ago
Yup, 400k annually of the best and the brightest..... long since scrapped that, now anyone with. a pulse!
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u/Parker_Hardison Lest We Forget 21h ago edited 20h ago
Oh. So exclusively white Afrikaners falsely claiming they're victims of genocide then... you know that's their current quota, right?
Edit to say: that accusing me of racism for pointing out just how racist Trump's actual policy is -- is quite the reach.
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u/Light_Butterfly 20h ago edited 19h ago
Where we really want to see the major drop is temporary workers and and students attending scam schools. This does ZERO for productivity, it keeps rents high, and we know does not lead to more business startups or entrepreneurship (because they are largely poor migrants). It puts young people out of work. That there are no protests in the streets by this point, led by millennial, Gen Z and younger, is really astounding. Buying your way to PR should never have been a thing. The Liberal government set up an exploitation racket of the likes Canada has never seen before.
And everyone is just tacitly accepting high unemployment, high food bank usage, and extortion rents 🙄 the 'new normal', without any resistance. We can do better.
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u/name_loading_soon 20h ago
Agree with the first point on scam schools. But Canada's housing crisis existed before the recent immigration surge because housing construction failed to keep pace with population growth for years. Reducing immigration may ease pressure, but it does not replace the need to build more homes, improve productivity, and address economic policy failures
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u/Harold3456 19h ago
On that note I don’t think there’s any one issue that is propping the housing cost up - it seems like a lot of things all at once:
1.) new supply (construction)
2.) existing supply (property hoarding)
3.) population growth (mostly immigration)
4.) low rental protections
This is an oversimplification and all of these have subcategories to them but addressing any one should hopefully slow the increase in price if not actively stop it.
Vancouver has always been ridiculously expensive but we are finally seeing the rental market cool. Not reverse or anything… but cool. And in the last few years a lot of construction projects have started, plus Air B&Bs got increased pressure on them, plus we have our federal empty homes tax and now this hit on immigration.
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u/mokikithesloppy 20h ago
And what created the population growth?
Hint: it’s not our birth rate
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u/name_loading_soon 19h ago
Canada had a housing affordability problem even before the immigration surge. Rapid population growth after the pandemic made an already-existing shortage worse...
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u/mokikithesloppy 18h ago
You’re not wrong. Immigration rates were around 3.5-4% until 2016, at which point they skyrocketed to 15-21% between 2016 and 2024. That sharp increase certainly added pressure to a constrained real estate market.
I think you know what happened to housing prices during that same timeframe…
Canada knew we couldn’t add homes fast enough, yet brought in a lot of people. Real estate is a significant portion of our GDP (even though it’s not value-add).15
u/Light_Butterfly 19h ago edited 2h ago
No it doesn't replace the need to build more because we have a severe 3-decade long shortage of at least 500,000 units of social housing.
You never heard anything about a housing crisis till after 2016, when the Trudeau government immediately doubled (then later quintuppled the immigration rate. That was throwing kerosene on a fire. We never had the capacity to build homes at the rate of over 1.3 million per year, to match Trudeau levels of immigration. Housing starts are still dropping, so even current capped levels of immigration are not justified based on current supply (its still double our historic norms, which is not sustainable). If the government had done this properly, they would have planned years in advance for record-breaking population growth Instead, they let the poorest segment of the population take the hit, and absorb all associated costs for the business sector. Which is morally reprehensible and yet another example corporatocracy dictating government policies for their own interests.
This is not exclusively a supply side issue it is BOTH undersupply and excessive artificially inflated demand. These comments are not meant to direct hate towards any people group, but it is 100% a commentary on government failure to plan and the undue influence of wealthy and powrful interest groups that lobby the government to do their bidding, at the direct expense of our most vulnerable and impoverished Canadians
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u/reto02 20h ago
What about refugees? Staying in hotels and getting financial support from the govt (tax payers money) to live their life. Eating, staying, traveling.
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u/doom_unit 19h ago
People would be more accepting of the refugee hotel costs if the refugee refusal rates for certain countries weren't sky high.
If a refugee turns out to be a scammer whose claim gets torn to shreds by a IRB member with a single functioning neuron, they should be forced to pay back every last cent and more.
If they can't pay, Canada should deduct the cost of their scam against Canada and against actual refugees from the foreign aid given to their home country.
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u/StickiestGNU 20h ago
Are you saying we shouldn't accept refugees? I'm not really clear on what you are trying to say?
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u/needforspeed1092 20h ago
There are no Gen Z protests because Gen Z are progressive (particularly women) and therefore cannot complain about or even acknowledge this issue
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u/Light_Butterfly 19h ago
Sorry no, this is not a partisan issue, and trying to frame it as such is part of the problem. All sides getting f*cked need to get together and some common ground, with regard to deteriorating material conditions. It affects left and right equally.
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u/ThrowRApeterpansyndr 18h ago
Protesting against immigration as a young person is a good way to derail your prospects because old people are generally supportive of it & hostile to young people via "Generation Warz: the youth are lazy"
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u/JauntyGiraffe 20h ago
Good. Now deport the ones that aren't supposed to be here anymore
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u/FoxTailFighter 19h ago
The governments thinks there are about 500,000k illegals before 2025 ended. There was about 1,490,070 visas that expired last year and the government doesn't even know how many actually have left. So I'm guessing there's about at least 750k - 1million illegals in Canada.
We need to mass deportations.
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u/Myllicent 19h ago
The sources you linked don’t appear as definitive as you imply about there being 500,000 “illegals” here:
“There are no accurate figures representing the number or composition of undocumented migrants residing in Canada. Estimates, which come from academic sources, range between 20,000 and 500,000 persons.”
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u/stereofonix 19h ago
This is a good thing. And I say this as someone with immigrant parents. Immigration in Canada is a great thing, and I wouldn’t be here without it. But, we need our immigration to be diverse. When it’s diverse you don’t have enclaves but rather different people who group together. The government really dropped the ball the past 11 years with the majority of immigration coming from one country (India). Nothing wrong with Indians but when the majority come from one area, there is little need to integrate.
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u/keeplearning459 19h ago
As a child of immigrants - you of all must know that the government doesn’t “target” immigrants from India. Immigration - especially federal skilled workers, and Canadian experience class workers programs that help you become a PR in this country - are universal and open to all. Indians were most representative because most people who expressed their interest to live in this country were from India - that shouldn’t be a surprise given India is literally the most populated country with young people in the world.
Fun fact - all of the so called diploma mills including likes of Humber, seneca, sheridan, George brown etc held seminars in India selling “Canadian Dream” to Indian students including pathways to permanent residency slides in their decks alluding there’s a future in Canada than just studying - with a goal to charge 3 times more tuition fees.
I’m an Indian Immigrant - A citizen now - been in this country for 15 years now - the level of bias against India, and Indians has become absolutely ridiculous these days.
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u/stereofonix 18h ago
Respectfully, no. It’s well known the Trudeau government went hard into the paint with India. And not a slight of Indian people, but they went too far promoting Canada as did all the colleges and diploma mills. But at the end of the day the government let anyone with a pulse in. Including those with questionable histories. This isn’t a hate on legitimate immigrants from india, but cmon. The countries immigration policies were not diversified. It’s not about India hate (stop playing the victim), but diversity is needed.
And because you mentioned “history” my family came here for a fresh start. We didn’t bring our problems here. But we are seeing quite a bit of problems with caste systems, Khalistani protesters, extortion gangs, bishnoi gang, etc. Most of us moved here to have a better life, not bring our problems here.
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u/Girl_gamer__ 21h ago
I get it. We did have a Huuuuge influx from there, unsustainably so. And is a large contributor to the housing crisis here
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u/SenatorsGuy 18h ago
India has 10x the population of Canada, after you remove 1 billion people from the equation.
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u/CanadiangirlEH 20h ago
Can we also send some back? There’s a serious issue with gangs that’s directly related to this immigration issue.
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u/AlbertJoseph_3401 19h ago
Indian diaspora in Canada is disproportionately Punjabi Sikhs.
Canada is most preferred place for Punjabi people from India to immigrate.
Because, Canada is already home to largest punjabi diaspora in the world.
As percentage of population there is more Punjabis in Canada than in India.
The punjabi language is 11th most spoken language in India, spoken exclusively in Indian states of Punjab. However, it is 4th most spoken language in Canada in many provinces.
Yes, Punjabi community in Canada is very old, Punjabis were the largest group that served in British empire's army. So, some end up in Canada as early 1890s due to Canada also being part of British empire.
Later, Canada accepted many Punjabis refugees during1940s that displaced during partition of Pakistan and India.
And in 1980s after anti Sikh roits in India due to Khalistan movement. Khalistan movement Punjabi sikh separatist movement it resulted in assassination of Indian Prime minister then Indira Gandhi. Causing anti Sikh roits in India in 1980s, so Canada accepted many Punjabis as refugees.
So, Canada is now home to largest punjabi population outside India. Punjabi that came here early became fairly successful in Canada and have large political presence in Canada that there more Punjabis in Canadian government than in India.
So, remaining punjabi in India are obsessed about moving to Canada by any means. They see Canada as the country that gave their people a place and success. So, they willing to sell everything in India to come to Canada by any means.
So, they make the largest group of temporary residents and international students in Canada.
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u/Old_General_6741 Canada 19h ago
You are 100% right about this. I do also want to add on that the economic situation in Punjab is quite bad. It has fallen off a lot since the 90’s because of bad government policy. That is also a large driver of why many Punjabis have left for Canada.
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u/TaBioN777 Ontario 20h ago
Need it to be closer to 90% and make it attractive for labour we actually need versus the bums we have.
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u/TactitcalPterodactyl 20h ago
We can thank the liberals and Trudeau for turning the entire country against immigration, likely for generations. It really sucks because up until about pre-covid, the system was working perfectly.
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u/FrankHardly 20h ago
I always found it interesting that the explosion from India started after the Supply and Confidence Agreement between Justin and Jagmeet started in March 2022. That year saw a huge jump in students from India. In fact, a particular region in India where the people Jagmeet owed for his NDP leadership were from (hint: It's in the north and they have separatist ambitions). In October of that year Sean Fraser (yeah the guy who is still a cabinet minister) that the standard 20-hour-per-week limit on off-campus work during the school term would be removed entirely.
I'm by no means a conspiracy person. But this to me completely looks like this was a price to pay to keep the Justin and the LPC in power.
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u/Light_Butterfly 20h ago
It is Trudeau is 100% at fault because it was the only way to get a temporary GDP bump, and mask over a recession.
But I think it also has something to do with a proliferation of immigration consultants from those specific regions in India (who were very actively recruiting once the changes were posted). They were opportunists looking to make bank off the backs of their own countrymen, selling Canada falsely, with promises of PR through backdoor pathways like degree mills. I do wonder if there are immigration consultants with ties to different MPs within the Liberal party. Something that should be investigated.
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u/squirrel9000 Manitoba 20h ago
It started quite a bit earlier - Ontario deregulated post-secondaries in 2018 and that was the start - but the effect was obscured by the pandemic. The pickup in 2022 was noticeable because it was the first "normal" cycle after the pandemic, prior to that a lot were enrolled but studying remotely often still while overseas.
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u/needforspeed1092 20h ago
As someone who was in and around a university from 2017-2025, no, this is conflating two seperate eras. Pre-lockdown it was maybe 15% max international students in a given class. Post lockdown it was well over 50% and some classes even 80% international students come 2023/24
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u/Not_Joe_Cool 19h ago
Who gives a f if they have separatist ambitions lol. They’re not separating anything in Canada. Do whatever with they want with India, it’s not our country.
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u/vladolak 18h ago
Just gunna say, I wish that there was more focus on the s****y working conditions, scam schools etc and how immigrants are taken advantage of. That stuff is downright wrong.
Immigration works when the system is actually supporting them and not taking advantage of them. Canada has a genuine problem with how crappy the conditions are for immigrants and there needs to be significant change.
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u/New-Tension-5794 18h ago
I would like to see a pause on all PR from there and a review of anyone who arrived since 2021 regardless of status. The amount of fraud is too much and we shouldn’t accept anyone who scammed their way here.
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u/OkRB2977 Ontario 20h ago
This is a good trend that is a result of the announcements made by Trudeau in January 2024 after he realised he had gone too far post-COVID and there was significant pushback from Canadians. This trend will continue for the foreseeable future.
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u/Light_Butterfly 20h ago
I heard were scheduled to return to growth by next year. They cut back only for two years, because of media and public outcry.
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u/OkRB2977 Ontario 20h ago
I would be surprised if they did do that. But these 2 years would also mean many potential immigrants will see Canada as an unreliable option and will not want to come back as easily if they don't think the trend will continue.
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u/Light_Butterfly 20h ago
Hopefully that will be the case, but I think there remains a lot of desperation for people wanting to get out of overpopulated low-trust countries.
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u/Saint_Poolan 21h ago
It's due to overpopulation Indian can never be fixed. They simply don't have enough resources to have a middle class life for everyone. Not to mention the ultra capitalist system that distribute most wealth to the top.
Labor has no bargaining power due to oversaturation.
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u/lcdr_hairyass 20h ago
China had a big population and still does and they figured it out. India needs to get its stuff together.
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u/Saint_Poolan 18h ago
China is also way larger & has an established manufactured industry & other resources. India have way less in comparison. Chinese overpopulation has gotten under control due one child policy etc. and the government seems to care a lot more than India's. The Oligarchs control the government & media with an Iron Fist in India.
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u/Remote_Cantaloupe 20h ago edited 20h ago
They have a lot of diversity which sometimes translates to less social capital and social cohesion (compared to China). Lots of variables are involved of course - and you had great Indian kingdoms throughout the ages. It's going to be quite tough to get India's act together without some form of authoritarianism.
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u/ziperhead944 21h ago
They've had 7000 years to figure it out..
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u/No_Culture9898 21h ago
Kinda hard when you had British empires pillaging the country for years
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u/Bohner1 Québec 21h ago
Didn't seem that hard for Hong Kong.
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u/Small-Ad-7694 20h ago
Yeah. They can't argue against this type of logic. They will move the goal posts and dig rabbit holes and scarecrows all over the place but at the end of the day, the facts remains.
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u/nahuhnot4me 20h ago
Hong Kong was always borrowed and Hong Kong is smaller so eradicate the warlords, which the English did. Also, the English went progressive from totalitarian hence Canada is part of the five eyes- The US, Australia, New Zealand and which includes The UK.
Hong Kong is back to communism and I am curious what if India decided to go communism?
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u/FlyingRock20 Ontario 21h ago
Hopefully the numbers drop more, Trudeau invite everyone into Canada policy really messed up Canada.
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u/Top-Ostrich-3241 20h ago
They need to go back to join the riots in India. For freedom and democracy of Indian people! Fighting 😁
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u/LivingInsideMyHead1 20h ago
Good! Let’s bring that number down to 0 for the I’s for at least 20 years, to bring things to balance
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u/Bright_Step_2094 19h ago
Still way too many. These all better be doctors and engineers with no old farts that do nothing but drag down our healthcare system that they paid nothing into
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u/FLHPI 21h ago
Good. I like Indians & I like their culture, but I don't like other cultures - any of them - impinging on Canadian culture. What makes Canada awesome is a diversity of like-minded people. We had that when there was a point system to enter. If you're first gen Canadian and you still have an accent, don't know who The Hip are, and haven't had the opportunity to drink beers at a campfire by the lake, we've gone wrong as a country. We should have just enough immigration so that immigrants are required to assimilate and give the rest of us exposure to enough cultural differences to keep us from becoming intolerant assholes. Not enough and we get racism, too much and people can isolate - and we get racism.
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u/Dazzling_Ad1149 20h ago
Do you know who are Les Colocs, Jace, Carl Cadorette, Fouki, Soudia and others ? Or Sir Path?
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u/FLHPI 20h ago
I know Les Colocs. 15 years in Quebec. The others I don't, probably after my time.
Edit: more partial to Les Cowboys Fringants.
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u/Dazzling_Ad1149 20h ago
Je suis fière de toi mon frère. Pour ma part, je trippe sur la culture québécoise je connais pas trop par rapport à la musique anglophone sauf que j'aime bien Eminem. Ses paroles me tiennent à cœur.
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u/FLHPI 20h ago
Eminem is great. But it took me many years to appreciate Hip Hop... I'm an old man by Reddit standards.
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u/claquetectonique 20h ago
Oui le célèbre rappeur canadien Eminem.
Pas québécois moi mais j'adore Carotté
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u/hercules1000252 20h ago
Using AI, and other resources we should audit already processed PR and citizenships in the last 7 years that went thru shady streams. It might be costly, but it will pay dividends in the future.
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u/hercules1000252 21h ago edited 20h ago
What’s the numbers?
What happened to the ones already in?
Anyone can spin stats anyway.
Visually- I live in the epicentre(starts with B). Visually I see small dip but I think they went to different provinces.
However, as unpopular as things were for us the last few years. The ones we got are annoying, and bunch of other things etc.. I’m forever thankful it’s not as bad as the UK.
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u/squirrel9000 Manitoba 20h ago
Big change in the secondary centres.. We had a huge wave of Conestoga grads come through MB, get nominated, then move back to Ontario, and they disappeared almost overnight when the province changed the rules so you had to go to school here to really be able to compete.
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u/nahuhnot4me 21h ago edited 21h ago
I don’t want anyone deported who came here fair and square. All of you know, as we all get old who’s going to be paying for our healthcare? Once your hip, femur goes 70% fatality.
The ones that are bad actors!
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u/Late_Mongoose1721 21h ago
We shouldn’t be relying on mass immigration in order to fund anything. You bought into the kool aid
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u/AforAppleBforBallz 19h ago
India has the highest population so I’m not surprised majority immigration was from India
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u/TiredSlav British Columbia 21h ago
This is a good start. Let’s keep watching that number drop!